knows the meaning of "Old No. 7"
knows the meaning of "Old No. 7"
Jack Daniels giving running advice is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the running community---how many champions has he ever coached?---and you can't count those Division 3 broads he coached.
Magdalena Lewy-Bouleet. Idiot.
Buffalo Billy wrote:
Jack Daniels giving running advice is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the running community---how many champions has he ever coached?---and you can't count those Division 3 broads he coached.
Daniels knows more about running than ALMOST anyone else. His RESEARCH--over 30 years' worth--has revolutionized running &, just as important, articulated in ways that the common runner can understand.
His research is PROVEN! Look at the college athletes he's coached over the years (Watch what Brevard College does over the next few years.), the professional runners he's coached, & all of us who have used his system as coaches (including German Fernadez's high school coach).
How much research have you done? How many books on running have you written? (Hell, bow many books on running have you READ!?!) How many athletes have you coached?
Just because you own a pair of running shoes, does NOT make you an expert!
Daniels is a researcher first, coach second.
He was an excellent researcher. He is an above average coach.
In high school german fernandez was ccoached by a guy who used the jack daniels approach.
Tike wrote:
In high school german fernandez was ccoached by a guy who used the jack daniels approach.
Your point?
There's more to coaching then writing a nice schedule.
Judge a coach for how he coaches. Not those who he has indirectly influenced.
I'll give you an example, Jerry Schumacher was greatly influenced by Martin Smith. Both very good coaches, but you wouldn't say, Martin Smith is a great coach because Chris Solinsky ran well!!
Buffalo Billy wrote:
Jack Daniels giving running advice is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the running community---how many champions has he ever coached?---and you can't count those Division 3 broads he coached.
Yeah! So all the HS coaches who repeatedly win section and state titles based on Daniels' methods - stop using Daniels! Instead, follow Buffalo Billy's training methodology, please. I'm sure Billy's method is much more reasoned and thought-out, based on decades of experiment and personal success producing champions.
Look at Billy's long list of champions! He's coached... well, he's had lots of success... I mean, well, even though no one's ever heard of Buffalo Billy, we all know his methods are far superior to Daniels... I mean, he posts on letsrun, so he's gotta be an expert, I'm sure, with lots of coaching experience under his belt... well, aside from that, I'm sure Billy bases his philosophy on sound science and... well, he's just coached so many top athletes! Don't you always see Buffalo Billy's athletes leaving Daniels disciples in the dust?
And, you know, all that good PR that Daniels gets is just a bunch of fanboy coaches anyway. The fact that The Running Formula is the closest thing to a running bible that top HS programs have, well, that's just coincidence. We don't care about results and what works - we just want to be able to say we use Daniels' methods. We KNOW that there are better coaching philosophies and training methods out there, but we purposely avoid using the better ones, because we just love Jack so much!
Billy, if you knew any top coaches, and brought that up in casual conversation with them, you'd be laughed out of the conversation. You'd know how well respected Daniels is. No one who knows anything about coaching dismisses Daniels' philosophy.
Good effort, though. 4/10.