Justin Gatlin to race Yohan Blake and Ryan Bailey tomorrow, is Sub 10 possible?

Short answer.

NO.

Long answer.

Justin Gatlin was a talented NCAA sprinter who doped and became the Olympic champ.

Without drugs, I doubt he's much better than 10.00 guy. Justin Gatlin will never be a contender at the world stage unless he dopes again. To be a contender on the world stage, you now need to be a 9.8 guy. So he has zero chance unless Gay, Bolt, Carter, Powell are all hurt.

I commend him for coming back after 5 years but steroids work.

your hate is strong, rojo. let him live

I would have to say no. It's hard to say how good he would be not on drugs, but I am guessing 10.0X.

Do you think Gay, Bolt, Nesta Carster, Powell and Ryan Bailey are clean? LMAO

Maybe you're in denial...

Couldn't agree with you more. I consider Everything Gatlin did since he started training with Trevor as a replacement for Timy Tim's 'Project WR' a fraud. Simple as that. Never will be running at elite level again. Thank god he was not in that fishy Rieti race, otherwise all his 'fans' would jump on the bandwagon again.

rojo wrote:

Short answer.

NO.

Long answer.

Justin Gatlin was a talented NCAA sprinter who doped and became the Olympic champ.

Without drugs, I doubt he's much better than 10.00 guy. Justin Gatlin will never be a contender at the world stage unless he dopes again. To be a contender on the world stage, you now need to be a 9.8 guy. So he has zero chance unless Gay, Bolt, Carter, Powell are all hurt.

I commend him for coming back after 5 years but steroids work.

and american distance runners don't dope??? Pleassssseeeeee

Fill in the blank: "__________ was a talented NCAA sprinter who doped and became the Olympic champ."

If you honestly believe that the world's top 100m today are clean, then of course Gatlin has a shot at being a contender on the world stage.

He is nowhere near old, he has experience, a good coach, motivation, and the ability to run.

If you honestly believe that the top 100m men are clean, then I don't see any rational basis to believe that Gatlin won't be among them.

Having said that, he won't break 10.00 this year unless there is a hurricane at his back, or unless he runs in Rieti.

That is a contradiction, Rojo... "A talented NCAA sprinter" is someone who can be a World Class sprinter. Dude wasn't just decent. He won the NCAA 100 and 200, and ran 19.86 IN COLLEGE.

Now, he could have been doping in college, but I doubt it.

JG had the talent to bee a 9.8 guy clean. Its a bit unbelievable, really. After his initial ban, you would think he wouldn't want to be away from the sport under shady circumstances again, but he apparently didn't learn. I honestly think he may have been dumb enough not to know he was doping. I mean, wouldn't it have come out in the wire taps that he assisted in with Trevor Graham? At some point during their taped conversations, don't you think Trevor would have said something that would have implicated Gatlin? From my understanding, JG is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I still think its a travesty that Shawn Crawford is still allowed to compete. I mean, I remember watching those 2 in my apt during the 2004 OG, and saying to my gf, "man, those 2 are doped to the gills". It was so obvious.

Having said that, I think he has the potential to break 10 and be a 9.9 guy. That could be enough to make a WC or OG team... especially on a relay.

They were in your apartment!!

Just kidding.

I think Justin was destined to be very good, he was probably going to run 9.8 at some point, but he took the short cut. I am not calling him a victum by no means, but I don't think he set out to dope, he was with a coach and an environment that encouraged doping and he went along with it.

1. 4 1 Johan BLAKE 0.179 10.06

2. 3 4 Justin GATLIN 0.160 10.09

3. 7 8 Emanuele DI GREGORIO 0.182 10.28

4. 8 5 Marvin ANDERSON 0.213 10.48

5. 2 6 Ryan MOSELEY 0.146 10.63

NP. 5 2 Mario FORSYTHE NP

SQ. 6 3 Ryan BAILEY SQ

SQ. 1 9 Fabio CERUTTI SQ

Wind +0.9

Letsrun is becoming the Fox News of running websites. I suppose real journalism takes too much effort. Rojo, it must be nice to see everything so black and white.

rojo wrote:

Short answer.

NO.

Long answer.

Justin Gatlin was a talented NCAA sprinter who doped and became the Olympic champ.

Without drugs, I doubt he's much better than 10.00 guy. Justin Gatlin will never be a contender at the world stage unless he dopes again. To be a contender on the world stage, you now need to be a 9.8 guy. So he has zero chance unless Gay, Bolt, Carter, Powell are all hurt.

I commend him for coming back after 5 years but steroids work.

I did a good job at predicting what Gatlin would run but why was he soo close to Blake? Bad race for Blake or is Gatlin in sub 10 shape right now?

rojo wrote:

So he has zero chance unless Gay, Bolt, Carter, Powell are all hurt.

So what about Patton, Blake, Dix?

To run as fast as he has in what has to be considered the early part of the season after a 4 year layoff is amazing. Two weeks ago he also looked about 10 lbs overweight and is kind of sitting back on his stride, which usually means he is not in top condition. I would say he will run sub-10 next year; although, that does not mean as much as it use to.

bottom line - disgrace he is allowed back to compete

webfoot wrote:

Letsrun is becoming the Fox News of running websites.

You realize they're gonna take that as a huge compliment, right?

Rojo,

You're crazy if you don't think he'll be in the mix. I put a 50% chance he makes the WC team as an individual next year after Gay and Dix and a near 100% chance he makes the team as a relay member.

Conto,

It depends on what you mean by contender. He might be a contender for the US team. That is a different from contender for the WC title which I thought the thread was talking about.

As for the Olympics, I believe he is ineligible per the new rule. Not much has been clarified as to whether it retroactively applies but the rule is if you serve a doping ban of six months or more, you are out for the next Olympics. Now since Gatlin missed the last Olympics, it might not be fair to keep him out again??

-Rojo

PS. On a side note, I'm still waiting for the apology that I'd be a bad mid-d coach.