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tjrk
The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 8:19AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I mentioned this in another thread, but thought it might warrant a thread of its own.

According to multiple sites (including this one: http://www.when-is.com/ramadan-2012.asp ), Ramadan in 2012 will be roughly from 20 July to 18 August. (Those who observe will actually begin at sunset on 19 July in some areas.)

Meanwhile, the Olympic dates are 27 July-12 Aug 2012: http://www.london2012.com/

More info about the conflicting dates here: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/2012_Olympics_clash_with_Ramadan
Be it noted: "The International Olympics Committee has specified that the games must take place between July 15 to August 31." Hence there would be at least a partial conflict with Ramadan, no matter what part of that time window the London organizers chose.

I'm REALLY looking forward to all the tearjerking human-interest stories about athletes confronting the conflict between their religion and their competition--not. Looks like I won't be watching this Olympics, either...

And I have a question: What will all the East African runners who've, um, "emigrated" to Arabic countries do? Will they be pressured to fast (given the publicity and all), even if they're not adherents of the religion?

Boy, Hitchens was right: religion really does poison everything.
tjrk
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 8:23AM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
PS--I realize that others spotted this conflict quite a while back. Sorry if I've duplicated a previous thread on the subject...
luv2run
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 11:02AM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some Muslim athlete will sue in as a violation of human rights.
youre a moron
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 1:53PM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

tjrk wrote:
And I have a question: What will all the East African runners who've, um, "emigrated" to Arabic countries do? Will they be pressured to fast (given the publicity and all), even if they're not adherents of the religion?


They're not going to make non-Muslims fast. Especially non-Muslims that they're paying to do well in the Olympics. Idiot.
ARunnertoo
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 2:19PM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some athletes will have to make some tough decisions, and the media will make a big deal out of it. Then they will pick out a few athletes and make a movie about their turmoil. Perhaps they could call the movie 'Chariots of Fire'. Then they can put some really bad, boring music to the slow motion running scenes, and then win all sorts of Academy Awards.
Shutterfly
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 2:25PM - in reply to ARunnertoo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Some athletes will have to make some tough decisions, and the media will make a big deal out of it. Then they will pick out a few athletes and make a movie about their turmoil. Perhaps they could call the movie 'Chariots of Fire'. Then they can put some really bad, boring music to the slow motion running scenes, and then win all sorts of Academy Awards."

POD.
hfghgd
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 3:14PM - in reply to Shutterfly Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How is this not an issue for every summer olympics?
mcgato
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 3:42PM - in reply to hfghgd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

hfghgd wrote:

How is this not an issue for every summer olympics?

Learn something please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan
being honest
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 3:50PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Who cares? If this causes a problem for them, they're too stupid to realize that the invisible man in the sky is imaginary.
Sunday Sunday
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 3:57PM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In western states we have track meets on Sundays so no bigee.
X-Runner
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 4:03PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, since it starts Aug 11 this year I figure it would affect races this year.
If you have a 5 pm race and haven't eaten since before dawn it would be tough.
Truth Sayer
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 4:34PM - in reply to X-Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Feel sorry for those Kenyan imports to Middle eastern countries. They are converted muslims now, right? Too bad for Said Shaheen.

Also sucks for North African distance countries (Morocco, Algeria).
luv2run
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 4:42PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I had not idea that Ramadan varied as much as it does.

I did not know that the Islamic calendar is a lunar one. Interesting.
luv2run
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 4:44PM - in reply to tjrk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
douglas burke
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 6:52PM - in reply to luv2run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
muhhammad ali and mike tyson and kareem abdul jabbar all had this problem of not being able to eat or drink even a sip of water from dusk to dawn and when reporters asked them about this all said that their religion is more important than any fight, game etc.
Jefferson Acura
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 8:12PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I assume that this is not the first Olympics that coincides with Ramadan. If not the Olympics, then probably the T&F world Championships. I mean, you would think that they would coincide fairly often, given that they both take place in late summer/early fall.
DontFeedTheTroll
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 8:51PM - in reply to Truth Sayer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Truth Sayer wrote:

Feel sorry for those Kenyan imports to Middle eastern countries. They are converted muslims now, right? Too bad for Said Shaheen.

Also sucks for North African distance countries (Morocco, Algeria).


Shaheen is not a Muslim. He doesn't even live in Qatar, IIRC. He lives and train in Kenya.
mcgato
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 9:00PM - in reply to Jefferson Acura Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Jefferson Acura wrote:
I mean, you would think that they would coincide fairly often, given that they both take place in late summer/early fall.
I reiterate, f***ing learn something. Estimated dates of Ramadan:
2006: Sep 23 - Oct 22
2007: Sep 13 - Oct 12
2008: Sep 1 - Sep 30
2009: Aug 21 - Sep 19
2010: Aug 11 - Sep 9
2011: Aug 1 - Aug 30
2012: Jul 20 - Aug 18
2013: Jul 9 - Aug 7
2014: Jun 28 - Jul 27
2015: Jun 18 - Jul 17
2016: Jun 6 - Jul 5
2017: May 27 - Jun 25
2018: May 16 - Jun 14
2019: May 6 - Jun 4
2020: Apr 24 - May 23

Maybe you see a pattern. Yes, it will be in December at some point. And some people wonder why most of the world hates Americans.
limeydude
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 9:15PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And you are quite an arrogant jerk. If you are an American, you've given a reason to hate them.
jkr
RE: The 2012 Olympics are SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF RAMADAN. 8/16/2010 9:22PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

mcgato wrote:
Estimated dates of Ramadan:
2006: Sep 23 - Oct 22
2007: Sep 13 - Oct 12
2008: Sep 1 - Sep 30
2009: Aug 21 - Sep 19
2010: Aug 11 - Sep 9
2011: Aug 1 - Aug 30
2012: Jul 20 - Aug 18
2013: Jul 9 - Aug 7
2014: Jun 28 - Jul 27
2015: Jun 18 - Jul 17
2016: Jun 6 - Jul 5
2017: May 27 - Jun 25
2018: May 16 - Jun 14
2019: May 6 - Jun 4
2020: Apr 24 - May 23

Maybe you see a pattern. Yes, it will be in December at some point.


The 2026 Winter Olympics will be smack in the middle of Ramadan! Boycott!
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