after reading the disastrous story of Tyler McCandless from the front page, shouldn't the SF Marathon race director be cashiered? What's being done to fix the overall clusterf-ckedness of this race?
after reading the disastrous story of Tyler McCandless from the front page, shouldn't the SF Marathon race director be cashiered? What's being done to fix the overall clusterf-ckedness of this race?
nothing. It's San Francisco. Everything's tolerated there...even incompetence. Live and let live, man.
as long as the 5 hour finishers get their medals and their tin foil warming blankets, nothing will change. if they ran out of bagels or the finishing medals had a typo, then bye-bye san francisco marathon race dirctor.
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It's more McCandless' fault than anyone else's. His presumption of ignorance about the race is lame. He's on twitter and everything else using bits and bytes. He could have researched in advance and known the past history of a race that rivals the New Delhi 5K.
crackauer wrote:
after reading the disastrous story of Tyler McCandless from the front page, shouldn't the SF Marathon race director be cashiered? What's being done to fix the overall clusterf-ckedness of this race?
http://www.roadsmillslaps.com/RML/Tyler_McCandless.html
Who would do the firing?
Above the race director stand all the sponsors. Them.
The sponsors don't give a tinker's fart if the masses are happy. This is a race to be avoided by anyone who cares to place.
crackauer wrote:
Above the race director stand all the sponsors. Them.
The sponsors aren't some sort of board of directors. They can certainly withdraw their sponsorship but they don't have hire / fire capability over the RD.
Also, in general the sponsors really don't give a damn about course logistics problems as long as whatever happens doesn't put their logo in a picture of some major screwup.
Not to say having a screw-up like this is OK. It always pisses me off when people don't pay attention to overall event logistics (not just course, but registration, results, getting to the event, etc, also). The sad fact is as long as whenever goes wrong doesn't stop the masses from coming back the RD's job is safe and sound.
Dude a mistake was made, shit happens. And you ain't all that good anyway.
ok buddy ok
I thought it was generally well done. There was adequate signage and a bike pacer. You can't really fault the race director for the bike pacer going off course. As far as bumping into slow marathoners . . . that's the risk you take when you decide to run the 2nd half. They started the 2nd half much later than the first so there wouldn't be any confusion with the marathon leaders. Running the 2nd half is simply an option: if you want to run a fast half-marathon, there are plenty of other races.
Can you fault the race director for giving the finisher a time 2 seconds slower than he really ran which was 1 second slower than he needed to qualify for the Olympic trials?
I think this McCandless guy should spend less time whining about how poorly a race was put together...it's still the responsibility of the runner to know the course and it's his fault for choosing a race that has half marathoners and marathoners run together. Seriously, if he can't run a 1:05 half marathon again before the OT then he probably doesn't deserve his beloved Mizuno contract he's tweeting the crap out of
San Francisco treat wrote:
It's more McCandless' fault than anyone else's. His presumption of ignorance about the race is lame. He's on twitter and everything else using bits and bytes. He could have researched in advance and known the past history of a race that rivals the New Delhi 5K.
That is such Bull Sh1t! Did you run the race and try to qualify? For G'sake, he missed it by 1 second??? He clearly had it by a wide margin but instead he has to live with it due to lame organization and set up--after all it's a "certified course", it should have been run A LOT better!
With that said, the only reason I picked the second half race was because I thought it was a "faster course" from what I read and I had done the first half in past, therefore I thought the second half would be no big deal. Seriously, if I read somewhere that it the 2nd half was going to be a clusterf---, I would have picked another race!
Yeah, go ahead and bash me, I'm just a hobby jogger but I can certainly understand the frustration of other runners who ran this race.
This race has a repeated history of sending runners off the course, then sending them back, and then even DQing them.
Its run by incompetents. As bad as Philadelphia...
Woah woah. Way worse than Philly. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. SF is a clusterfvck every year. If you want to know who it's aimed towards, Dean Karnazes shows up to sign autographs, there isn't any prize money, and none of the top runners in the area ever do the race. Just look at past times, they'll tell you all you need to know.
Philly is no SF. Philly has elites. SF doesn't. Philly gives out prize money. SF gives out wooden plaques created by imprisoned biker meth-heads from San Simeon. SF has Dean and rainbow clowns. Philly has gray skies and pollution.
anyone want to write them?
thought so. Nobody does anything here other than bitch.
Even if McCandless made the standard, is he as good as someone running a flat 2:19 marathon? The second half course seems pretty downhill to me.