Seems that a longer taper would be more common...that's a lot of mileage so close to the race.
Seems that a longer taper would be more common...that's a lot of mileage so close to the race.
That's like running 5 miles in the week before your 5k, if you scale it down. Doesnt sound too bad.
No...that is not normal on two fronts.
1. Even for ultrarunners, 180+ mile weeks are not the norm. There are some who do this, but not the norm.
2. Western States is a pretty big race (viewed by many as the biggest and best among ultra's)...all runners (regardless of distance) typically taper heavily heading into big races. I would've expected singles (vs. doubles) amd milage of about half what he actually did.
Roes is a tough cookie...super tough. But, IMHO, he shouldn't have beat Krup on this run.
Hoovis
Hoovis! wrote:
Roes is a tough cookie...super tough. But, IMHO, he shouldn't have beat Krup on this run.
Hoovis
I think you are underestimating Roes, he may be straight-up faster. Krupicka was really happy with his performance last Saturday, although he did get into some premature head-banging in miles 50-70 that may have slowed him later in the race.
Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
scary thought wrote:
Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
It is a VERY selfish sport. I wonder as old guys will they look back with regret for wasting there productive years.
scary thought wrote:
Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
The best way to help others is to take good care of ourselves, and to be a good example to others.
184 miles in the 7 days before the race, then 100 on race day? I could see 84 in the 6 days before the race, but the 184 sounds nuts.
scary thought wrote:
Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
Said by some guy spending his time on Letsrun...
It was really two weeks before, I think, that he ran 184 miles. The week of WS100 he only ran 35 miles before the race. Anyway, 184 miles is normal for him, in fact, it's a bit less than he was running in years past during intense periods of training.
I don't know, I don't think I can run 184 miles a week. But I can do 100-120. I'll be racing some time in the fall, and I'll probably run 100 miles in the week prior to the week of the race, and then run 30 or something the week of the race. Some people do better with short tapers, and I'm one of those people. Three days of rest or very short runs and I'm good to go.
Older and Wider wrote:
scary thought wrote:Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
Said by some guy spending his time on Letsrun...
Hey, they could be cops, or tax collectors.
You know, some kind of profession that really "helps" people.
I'm thinking, anybody That can put in 180 mile+ weeks fairly injury free can be an elite ultramarathoner. That's really all it takes. You build a mental edge and like somebody pointed out, all of a sudden 100 miles isn't much when every run is at least 25 miles. It comes down to most people not wanting to put in that kind of time.
THATS A MARATHON EVERY DAY
"Krupicka ran 184 miles..."
Semantics, but I don't think he "ran" all of it per se.
he didn't run 184 in the week directly before WS100, but in the week before that. Does seem like 184 is a lot, but he ran a great race. Here is his log leading up to WS from his blog
http://antonkrupicka.blogspot.com/
:
06-14-2010
Mon-AM: 50 miles (7:48) 2xGreen-Walker-Eldo-2xGreen, 13000'
Still a bit rainy, but I did about 5hr of this run with Scott. Easy effort all day.
06-15-2010
Tue-AM: 15 miles (2:22) Green Mt., 3000'
PM: 10 miles (1:21) Streets+Sanitas Valley w/ Joe, 800'
06-16-2010
Wed-AM: 18 miles (2:55) Green Mt. & Bear Peak, 4200'
Nice easy effort with Scott.
PM: 6 miles (:47) Skunk Creek+barefoot
06-17-2010
Thu-AM: 15 miles (2:15) Green Mt., 3000'
PM: 8 miles (1:03) Creek Path+barefoot
06-18-2010
Fri-AM: 16 miles (2:19) Green Mt. w/ Scott, 3000'
PM: 8 miles (1:03) Creek Path+barefoot
06-19-2010
Sat-AM: 15 miles (2:10) Green Mt. w/ Scott, 3000'
PM: 8 miles (1:02) Creek Path+barefoot
06-20-2010
Sun-AM: 15 miles (2:14) Green Mt., 3000'
Total
-Miles: 184
-Hours: 27h 14min
-Vertical: 33,000'
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06-21-2010
Mon-AM: 8 miles (1:00) Creek Path
06-22-2010
Tue-AM: 8 miles (1:00) Kokopelli Trail
06-23-2010
Wed-AM: 8 miles (1:00) Tahoe Rim Trail
06-24-2010
Thu-AM: 7 miles (1:00) Volcano Canyon from Bath Rd, 1500'
06-25-2010
Fri-AM: 4 miles (:36) Truckee River
06-26-2010
Sat-AM: 100 miles (15:13:53) Western States 100, 18000'
2nd Place
I just posted a few more thoughts on this here:http://northwestultra.com/2010/07/01/still-pondering-western-states/
Older and Wider wrote:
I think you are underestimating Roes, he may be straight-up faster. Krupicka was really happy with his performance last Saturday, although he did get into some premature head-banging in miles 50-70 that may have slowed him later in the race.
scary thought wrote:
Older and Wider wrote:Said by some guy spending his time on Letsrun...
Hey, they could be cops, or tax collectors.
You know, some kind of profession that really "helps" people.
Like prostitution?
Imagine if you minded your own damn business! How do you know what Krupika and Roes do in their nonrunning time? Envy is uncool.
scary thought wrote:
Imagine if they could put all that energy into helping others!
Hey Myles, something we agree on for once.
I like your thoughts on this, I kind of had the same feeling. But, there are so many variables (talent, training, tactics, terrain, etc.) at work it's really hard to predict the results of races like these. I look forward to seeing these two race again.
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these