How fast do you have to be going to count it as running?

We all think you're a douchebag. Stop worrying about things that don't matter like pretend cut-offs that vary between people and just run/jog/walk/do a jig in whatever way you feel constitutes a "real" run. If someone told me they ran 100 miles at 12:30 pace I'd be amazed, that's a lot of time on the feet.

The difference between walking and jogging is not determined by a pace. If at any moment during the gait both feet are off the ground then you are jogging/running. As far as the difference between running and jogging -- Personally, I consider it to be very individualized based on effort, not pace.

I agree, definitely effort paced. a 13 minute 5ker might have an easy pace of 6 or 6:30, so his jog may be 8. But a 22 minute 5ker might have an easy pace closer to 10 minutes, so he might be jogging around 11 or 12.

I've run 100 miles at 12:00/mile or so (20:31 total time, which includes aid station time.) Not a whole lot of walking in that, some, maybe a few miles, and walking some of the hills. But not much.

For me, it's really a very specific thing. It's not jogging like you see the big people doing in the park, huffing and puffing, slap, slap, slap. But a short stride length, and very regular, like a metronome. Same kind of form I might use when running the mile, just much smaller steps. Not sloppy...

To illustrate, here's Anton Krupicka running at a 9:48 pace or so for 100 miles (this is crew footage):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aDJfjBApI

Slow, but not necessarily sloppy like you might think.

I always have a laugh when this question is posed.

When I was 20 yrs old I jogged at 4mins/km pace or slower,running was anything faster.At 77 yrs old I jog at 8mins/km pace and running is anything faster.The definitions change most markedly with ageing,but the relative jog/running feelings,both physical and mental stay the same.

Just enjoy the moving at whatever pace.

That video was actually really enlightening. 9:48 pace or whatever is slow but you are absolutely right, he looked smooth. I've never seen an ultra and i always pictured people just kind of plodding along but he looked strong as heck. I apologize for coming of as an asshole before.

>10:15/mile = jogging

<10:15/mile = running

10:15 mile = well tuned

This has been repeatedly discussed on here.

The RUNNING GODS set forth in 1974 that 7:00 pace and faster shall be called running and over 7:00 pace shall be called jogging. This edict has been passed down through the many generations of runners.

Nothing wrong with counting all your jogging andd running miles together though.

Where have you walked a 11:30 mile? Just curious, no doubting intended.

If you're not walking, then you are running. Whenever I hear the word "jogging" I think of something from the 70's. Present day, you jog as an active rest when doing intervals. Otherwise you are running, even if you are running at granny pace.

JBiz wrote:

I apologize for coming of as an asshole before.

Apology accepted, we also might have read it wrong. Just a way to think about it, it's hard to plod a distance like that. Every runner needs the most efficient form for their races and Ultra runners are no different. 50 or so miles can really compound the effects of bad form on the body.

I heard 7 mpm seperates running from jogging about 25 years ago. I always thought that was too fast. I think it should be 8 mpm. Otherwise, I never run!

FastJogSlowRun wrote:

I heard 7 mpm seperates running from jogging about 25 years ago. I always thought that was too fast. I think it should be 8 mpm. Otherwise, I never run!

Happens to all of us. No shame in becoming a jogger!!