NYRR are crybabies

duke v

RE: NYRR are crybabies 4/15/2010 11:02AM - in reply to stop all this nonsense

stop all this nonsense wrote:

New York lied and did not do a GREAT job last time. NYRR have their own PR department that did a good job of providing misinformation.

1. New York is expensive. This is the first Olympic trials that I ran in that my extended family could not afford to come.

2. My High School track coach has been to every OT marathon since 1968 but could not afford to come to NY. I have talked with several people that were in the same situation.

3. The NYRR refused to have fluids tables for B Qualifiers. This was not part of their bid and has not been the case in any previous marathon trials. They eventually caved because of public outcry.

4. NYRR promised NATIONAL TELEVISION coverage and then blamed the lack of coverage on NBC.

5. They promised transportation to and from the airport but dropped the ball on this one for over half the field.

6. Their was no pre race dinner but instead a luncheon that was at the technical meeting.

7. A large portion of the technical meeting was Mary patting herself on the back for providing fluids to everyone and how unique this was. It had already been done at both previous mens trials.

8. Alan Steinfeld was offensive in this same meeting.

Every one of the above complaints were handled better at both Birmingham and Pittsburgh. New York was a huge lonely disappointment. When writing a letter of complaint to USATF, I received a letter back indicating that changes would be made in the future that would limit the field size in an attempt to give all participants a better experience. In other words, I shouldn't even have been there.

(1) Why should we care that your "extended" family determined that NYC was too expensive for them? Was this your 3rd cousin once removed? Yes, NYC is expensive, but flights there are plentiful and not expensive. You really don't have to stay at the Carlyle to watch the OTs and there are plenty of cheap hotels just outside of the city.
(2) Again, do we really care? Also, who is to say that your extended family and high school coach won't be able to afford to go to Houston as well? There are a lot less flights into Houston and they will fill up a lot faster than the flights into NYC. Have you also considered all of the other people who live within driving distance of NYC who, for the first time, COULD afford to go to the OTs because they didn't have to pay for airline tickets and/or a hotel? It's A LOT more than will be able to say the same thing about Houston.
(3) What public outcry? Were people chattering across the US about how ridiculous it was that B fluids weren't going to be available at the OTs? Get over yourself. This was not up there with the Iraq war or the financial crisis at the time in terms of public outcries.
(4) As discussed previously, NBC and only NBC controls the national television coverage. What is NYRR supposed to do when NBC commits to broadcasting the race nationally and then drops the ball on it? Do you think NYRR conspired with NBC not to show the race? That's not exactly in NYRR's best interests and your ire should instead be directed at NBC.
(5) What does "dropped the ball on this one for over half the field" mean? If it means that David Monti wouldn't personally drive a lot of the runners to and from the airport, you are correct. As a B qualifier, you were provided shuttle service to and from the hotel as per here:

http://www.usatf.org/events/2008/OlympicTrials-Marathon-Men/athleteInfo/travel.asp

Are you claiming that you filled out your Questionnaire and the NYRR told you and over 1/2 the field to hitchhike back to the airport? I find that very dubious.
(6) Was a dinner canceled? I'm not sure what your beef is here.
(7) You are aware that there were more than 2 OTs before 2008?
(8) That shouldn't surprise anyone who has spent any time with him but I'm not sure why that is relevant here.

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