I,m from spain.I know personally sergio sanchez.You can think(somepersons)what you want about him.In the past he had a lot of problems, in my opinion he is a worker and beside he is a good man and very friendly with everybody,in spain he has a lot of fans.
Here I put several videos where sergio is training.
"This is sergio sanchez....working",I hope that you like:
That was kind of my point!! Aouita's meteoric rise was even more unbelievable than Sanchez's has thus far been.
Why did that tosser Ventolin have to come back and inject his poison into the debates on here again!? Lol
The guy will always be contrary and will never admit to being wrong on anything. The best thing to do is ignore him.
I agree with the majority of sane people on here. Sanchez might have run 7:30 in a perfect world with perfect pacemaking (which of course doesn't exist anyway). That means he can run 7:30 now and if he were to run the same race outdoors on that same day his time would have been almost the same. More likely slower if there was some wind.
There is NO conversion to work out what a 7:32 indoors in Feb is worth outdoors in August. That is an impossible thing to do. Just because someone can pluck a few names from a few specific seasons and show that they improved by 5 secs is meaningless. It might show a trend for those specific athletes, but every athlete has a specific game plan for a season. While some want to be in great form to make a bit of money on the indoor circuit in Feb/March, others will just use it as a stepping stone to gauge how their winter preparation is going.
I think some of the posters are missing my point, its not so much that he improved drastically its the amount of time he did it in. He went from a 3:39/13:21 man to 4:52 (2000m)/7:32.41 (3000m) in LESS THAN 4 months. Come on now guys you know enough about running to know it takes MORE time than that to build you endurance significantly.
He's last track race was in August, he had 3 medicore x-country races in Nov and BAM January he's a candidate for making All-Time list in whatever he runs so far indoors!
Sergio Sanchez 2009 Outdoor Season
7:43.41i SB (12) 6 Valencia 14 Feb
8:04.54i 2 NC Sevilla 21 Feb
7:52.75i 2h1 EC Torino 6 Mar
7:45.29i 4 EC Torino 7 Mar
7:45.51 PB (50) 4 Aragón Zaragoza 18 Jul
13:21.79 PB (71) 5 Andalucia Málaga 27 Jun
13:49.85 15 GGala Roma 10 Jul
13:36.18 2 NC Barcelona 2 Aug
13:53.51 16h2 WC Berlin 20 Aug
28:21 PB (67) 3 Silvestre Madrid 31 Dec
Cross Country 10.0 km
30:28 2 Soria 29 Nov
Cross Country 9.3 km
30:37 14 Llodio 22 Nov
Cross Country 10.23 km
31:34 9 Parayas Maliaño 18 Jan
Cross country 10,575 km
30:59 1 Venta de Baños 20 Dec
Cross country 8.76 km
25:27 6 Atapuerca Burgos 8 Nov
HOW DID HE IMPROVE SO DRASTICALLY SO QUICKLY (Less than 4 months)?
|Suspect numero uno|
Don't waste your breath VIPAM. The same guys that are supporting him are probably the same guys that were saying Ramzi and the cream of the crop East Africans were dirty. At least I'm honest and consistent with my suspicions regardless if the perpetrator a European or East African.
|the reality of it|
Again, 2:26, 2:27, 2:27. How is that not ideal> A second between the fastest kilo and the slowest. You are saying he could have ran 2:26.33 pace the entire way just because he ran the first 1k in 2:26.2? Thats like someone splitting a 5:00 mile in 74.5/75/75/75.5 and then you sawing they could have ran 74.6 pace the whole way. Think about what you type, moron.
Heyyyyyy, why not knock 10 seconds off the 1500 for a 3:20, and make it a 7:00flat 3k while your at it. Lets just invent a super runner based on some ratios, and ignore human phisiology and history. Hell, I'm sure in a century we'll have a 3:00/6:20 dude tearing it up.
Why wasn't El G running 7:12...after all, he was 4 seconds under 3:30 and 3:30 ALWAYS=7:20, according to your moronic balthering. F***ING MORON!
he ran 7:32 and that might be his pr for the year, but assuming for the moment that he improves as much as Komen that year (not a good assumption for guys who pr indoors: look at Sherer last year or the year before), then we write him down for 7:28 outdoors. That would be incredible if he ran that, but it is not a 7:25.
|Poster Formerly Known asGoober|
Americans are insecure about their own juiced athletes and can't share the "whitey spotlight" in distance running. End of thread.
If Sanchez time was worth 7.28/9. Can you calculate a potential time for runner X. He runs indoor 3km. Splits
are 2.41,2.44 and 2.29. What is the time he could have
run if the race had been ideally paced at 400m track. Just
NOOOOOO! Don't encourage him!!
|Suspect numero uno|
He's as clean as Alberto Garcia. Check this out and open up your fookin eyes retards. Man is dirty.
in 50 - 100y, those are likely to be very feasible
do some wr extrapolation curves
3'20/7'00 may eventually be asymptotic
3'00/6'20 is moron talk
you seem to have no concept of speed-decay
komen's was markedly superior at 3'30/7'20 ratio
if hicham had same factor, you coud apply that to 3'26, but his wasn't - as evidenced by only 12'50 ability
you are talking drivel & clearly out of your depth...
yep, you can't go from semi fast (just under 4:00 mile talent) to fastest elite at 28 years old that quickly without drugs. doesnt look good for this guy...
|Poster Formerly Known asGoober|
yep, you can't go from semi fast (just under 4:00 mile talent) to fastest elite at 28 years old that quickly without drugs. doesnt look good for this guy...[/quote]
We've already gone over this. There are billions of factors that we'll never know as to why he never performed to a similiar level prior, but it's pretty clear that his "potential" wasn't just under 4:00 even if he is dirty which everyone has no outstanding reason to believe beyond his jump in performances.
Shut up you MORON! Your rambling was amusing at first now your just plain annoying. You dismiss years of Sergio Sanchez's consistent performances at the same average level and rationalize it with your if, maybe, and could of's.
The guy trained and trained seriously as you don't run as many track races as he did and not have some type of scheduled and systematic training.
He ran NUMEROUS track 1500m and 3000m races every year for the last 7-8 years and never showed a big drop in any particular event with his focus on 1500m (3:39.79) up to 2006.
2007 he ventured to 3000/5000m and ran plenty of races with no big drop where his pb up until 2009 was 13:21
pb.....1500m 3:39.79 (2004)
FOUR MONTHS LATER
pb.....2000m 4:52 passing 1500m indoors in 3:36-3:37 with another 500m to go
pb.....3000m 7:32.41 running the last 1500m close to his personal best FOUR months earlier
in 2006 his final serious attempt at the distance, he ran ELEVEN 1500m races (4 indoors/ 7 outdoors) with a best of 3:41.73 and you think he didn't train but raced alot ROFLMAO. The guy wouldn't race that much if he hadn't been seriously training, think about it.
*****ISN'T it more likely that after years of training and not getting anywhere he reflected and decided some type of enchancement was needed- that's really the only LOGICAL explanation for such an improvement in just 4 MONTHS!