"Distance runners can't run well with a cold," Salazar said. "At this level, it's the difference between 13:05 and 13:15."
Rupp ran a 13:14 yesterday, and managed to push the pace and ensure Lagat would break his AR (also managing to run under his own record.) In short, he looked pretty damn good. Would he have really been capable of a 13:05 if he hadn't been fighting illness? Discuss.
Does a dog shit on the lawn?
boop bleep bleep boop wrote:
Does a dog shit on the lawn?
I don't think you meant "Not a well-trained one" though that would be an interesting reply here.
Salazar has always been pretty good about predicting performances, hasnt he? Even since he was a competitor in the 80s. So I would believe what he says.
Oh yawn
Yeah I guess its pretty believable that many of his athletes seem to mysteriously get thyroid conditions when he starts coaching them.
Next please
Watching the race footage, Rupp certainly looked white as a sheet at the start. Now whether that was simply from nerves standing next to Bernard Lagat or the fact that he's been living in Oregon without sun all Winter is up for debate, but he didn't look well. When the race started though, he showed no signs of weakness aside from the last lap.
Lagat also looked the most tired I've seen him at the end of a race recently. This was no walk in the park for him like Millrose. He had to really work for the win, which leads me to wonder whether he's not still better suited to the mile.
My guess is that Lagat will be happy running 3000s in Albuquerque and Doha.
hogsfd wrote:
Watching the race footage, Rupp certainly looked white as a sheet at the start. Now whether that was simply from nerves standing next to Bernard Lagat or the fact that he's been living in Oregon without sun all Winter is up for debate, but he didn't look well. When the race started though, he showed no signs of weakness aside from the last lap.
Lagat also looked the most tired I've seen him at the end of a race recently. This was no walk in the park for him like Millrose. He had to really work for the win, which leads me to wonder whether he's not still better suited to the mile.
Say what?!
13:11 is a hell of a lot better time than a 3:56, so it does stand to reason that he had to work a little harder. Plus, Rupp had put the hammer down a couple of laps earlier, so he was having to kick off of an already-high pace.
I didn't think he looked tired at all.
After the race he looked tired, like I've never seen him.
If you knew Alberto, you'd know he doesn't throw times out in a BSin fashion.
No evidence, but I would guess that he would have run under 13:10, Lagat still would have won, but they both would have beat the 2 and 3 placers from this race as it was.
Watch the race again. Rupp looked more tired than Lagat. Lagat looked smmoth and strong while Rupp was struggling on that last lap. While I'm at it. Lagat could probably beat Rupp at the 10k. An event Rupps been training for the last 3-4 years.
Bull wrote:
Watch the race again. Rupp looked more tired than Lagat. Lagat looked smmoth and strong while Rupp was struggling on that last lap. While I'm at it. Lagat could probably beat Rupp at the 10k. An event Rupps been training for the last 3-4 years.
Yeah, no shit, he's got 10 years of training and race experience on the kid, I'd be shocked if he couldn't. It's not like there's no crossover between training for a mile and a 10k.
This is actually no new news. Just after Ritz went under 13 last year Salazar said Rupp among other Americans would be right around there too very soon.
In Flew Enza wrote:
"Distance runners can't run well with a cold," Salazar said. "At this level, it's the difference between 13:05 and 13:15."
Rupp ran a 13:14 yesterday, and managed to push the pace and ensure Lagat would break his AR (also managing to run under his own record.) In short, he looked pretty damn good. Would he have really been capable of a 13:05 if he hadn't been fighting illness? Discuss.
Apparently Salazar hasn't added all of the right spices to the sauce just yet.
Bull wrote:
Watch the race again. Rupp looked more tired than Lagat. Lagat looked smmoth and strong while Rupp was struggling on that last lap. While I'm at it. Lagat could probably beat Rupp at the 10k. An event Rupps been training for the last 3-4 years.
Whether or not Rupp was more tired than Lagat is not the issue. I was simply trying to point out that Lagat looked particularly winded after the race, indicating he was not holding back at all on the last lap.
i didn't think rupp looked too good on the start line, looked mighty nervous, like when you hope to hell you are actually healthy enough for what you put yourself into. he didn't look great when he took the lead either, and he was only on about the same pace at 4K as he was last year when he looked bouncy and like he was holding back in arkansas. my guess is he is not nearly as sharp at this point (logical since he's not training with a bunch of 800/milers and aiming to win ncaa indoors) and he was't feeling 100%.
as long as he recovers it was a great test and workout for him and if he does indoor worlds he'll probably have a little more snap at the end, and my guess is he'll shave more off his 3K than he just did for 5k. it'll be fun to see if lagat or him can scare lagats 3K AR.
rupp won't come anywhere close to bernie'e 7'32.43i
if you try a 101/102 conversion that's ~ 7'28.0 outdoors
anyone believe rupp will ever be that fast ?