I've been a vegetarian for awhile but starting Sunday I want to try giving up animal products entirely. I want to avoid processed foods as much as possible, but it may be tough since I'm a college student.
Are there any elite distance runners besides Jurek that are good examples of the potential success this may bring? The main reason I am doing this is to trim so extra body fat and recover faster between efforts.
Thanks...
vegrunner wrote:
I've been a vegetarian for awhile but starting Sunday I want to try giving up animal products entirely. I want to avoid processed foods as much as possible, but it may be tough since I'm a college student.
Are there any elite distance runners besides Jurek that are good examples of the potential success this may bring? The main reason I am doing this is to trim so extra body fat and recover faster between efforts.
Thanks...
That sounds cool man, just try to ease into it. If you feel that it's starting to affect your running just go back to going vegetarian. avoid processed food as much as possible.
I have a protein powder shake every morning and evening.
No honey? No fruit from trees that require pollination?
yeah veganism is pretty dumb
How 'bout the tampon lodged in your vagina? The plastic may not be an animal product, but it's sure as hell tied into the industry. That includes the keyboard on which you're typing, the LSD screen you see and the clothes you wear.
Being a vegetarian or a vegan is cool and respectable in the sense that you're making a sacrifice, but it doesn't do anything. It's not a political statement and there's no economic effect. It's all a personal vendetta.
AS for the health effects, nothing's been proven. Protein's good for you and makes you much stronger than any bean ever could.
like mike wrote:
How 'bout the tampon lodged in your vagina? The plastic may not be an animal product, but it's sure as hell tied into the industry. That includes the keyboard on which you're typing, the LSD screen you see and the clothes you wear.
Being a vegetarian or a vegan is cool and respectable in the sense that you're making a sacrifice, but it doesn't do anything. It's not a political statement and there's no economic effect. It's all a personal vendetta.
AS for the health effects, nothing's been proven. Protein's good for you and makes you much stronger than any bean ever could.
You are wrong wrong and wrong.
Going vegan helps out a ton...just because it's not 100% doesn't mean it's not good. Your 20% goodness is less than this guy's 90% goodness.
I'm drunk. If I were sober I would make a better argument.
I am doing the opposite of you ... other than water, I am eating nothing but animals for the next week. Prime rib, chicken fingers, sirloin steak, maybe even some deer meat since it is hunting season. It's gonna be tough since they try to put that parsley stuff on my plate, but I think I can do it. It means I have to take the bun off all my hot dogs though.
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Just eat nothing but bananas all week. You'll feel great. :)
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Carnivore 69: I am doing the opposite of you ... other than water, I am eating nothing but animals for the next week.
Dog?
If I see jerk dog on a menu in Jamaica this weekend, you better believe I'm ordering it.
like mike wrote:
How 'bout the tampon lodged in your vagina? The plastic may not be an animal product, but it's sure as hell tied into the industry. That includes the keyboard on which you're typing, the LSD screen you see and the clothes you wear.
Being a vegetarian or a vegan is cool and respectable in the sense that you're making a sacrifice, but it doesn't do anything. It's not a political statement and there's no economic effect. It's all a personal vendetta.
AS for the health effects, nothing's been proven. Protein's good for you and makes you much stronger than any bean ever could.
Wow, you must have not read my post! I said I am doing this for my own personal health - not to make some passive aggressive statement towards society.
You're pretty ignorant too. "Protein's good for you and makes you much stronger than any bean ever could." HAHA - I'm not even going to waste my time arguing over the internet with you...
Good news, everyone! That link I posted is the wrong one. The 2nd place finisher at the JFK 50 (Michael Arnstein) is a raw vegan, but teh g00glez failed me.
vegrunner wrote:
The main reason I am doing this is to trim so extra body fat and recover faster between efforts.
Thanks...
There is no proof that going vegan will allow you do that. Trim extra body fat by a) burning more calories, b) eating less calories (especially fat and sugar) c) spurring your metabolism by building some muscle with some intense gym work
If you really think cutting out milk and eggs (isn't that the big change you would be making?) is going to have some drastic effect on your running/body, then you are going to be disappointed.
Actually, let me take that back: you will probably believe it happens no matter what REALLY happens, because you've convinced yourself of the efficacy of your new diet already. You will come back here and tell us: ' I feel sooo much better, with sooo much more energy now that I've gone vegan! It's amazing. And I can see my abs more. Wow, I am so glad I did this!' And you will say that without any definitive proof that your new diet did this for you (was everything else controlled for in your little experiment? No). It's called: bad science, and/or, the placebo effect, and/or wanting-to-be-right, so you convince yourself you were right.
So I say: go for it, belief is 1/2 the battle (though I think it will have little actual effect on your running/body).
Weak thread. Let's change it. One letter and you sound WAY cooler:
Going Vegas for at least a week..advice?
Ok... here's a serious response. I've been vegan for about 20 years, and a competitive runner for most of them. Basically, it's not that big a deal. By this point, you've probably figured out how much protein you need, how many carbs, etc..... so just replace the dairy or egg amounts with comparable vegetable sources. You'll probably find that giving up dairy makes you feel way "cleaner" as most adults don't really deal with lactose very well. Don't worry about B-12 if you're only going vegan for a week.... your body has stored enough to go months or even years without it. If you decide to stick with the vegan thing, you might consider a supplement or something fortified with it (most good cereals are)... also, consider taking a flax oil supplement for your omegas.
some good, cheap vegan food options that are dynamite for runners: peanut butter, quinoa, bananas, seitan (very easy and cheap to make yourself).
enjoy!
I'm not trying to "turn" people one way or another, but as a long time vegan, and near lifelong vegetarian I think I can offer some little tidbits of advice and knowledge.
-As long as you eat enough calories, and whole foods, there is no reason to worry about being deficient in protein, fat, or any other nutrient.
-Though I understand why most people cut out flesh, and not other animal products, I honestly believe it's healthier(and more natural) to eat ZERO dairy, and small amounts of meat.
-Over 80% of the worlds population is allergic to dairy. Less so for people of European descent, but still significant. Most people never realize they are allergic, and suffer as a result. Many people who go vegan find letting go dairy to be a huge asset to their overall health and performance as a result.
-There are long lists of professional athletes who are/were vegan or vegetarian. A few notables include Carl Lewis (during his prime), Edwin Moses, several Mr. Universe winners, and 70% of Men's Ironman winners.
-Veganism is not a weight loss plan! If you're doing it just to trim body fat, that's not a good idea. The only reason there is this perception that vegan=lean, or skinny, is because people don't eat enough! Meat, butters, and other dairy products are very dense in calories, so to eat the same amount of calories you may need to increase your perceived intake of food slightly.
-Faster recovery on the other hand is something to look forward to- many, many people have experienced this. Much of this has to do with eating foods which are less acidic, and more digestible.
-If you want to succeed, I recommend seeking out new and different foods, instead of trying to replace everything with a vegan version. There are so many foods which have a tasty vegan alternative, but are very processed, and in my opinion unhealthy. For me, it just defeats the purpose to have foods like "vegan sausage".
-Diet is important for our health and fitness, but it is just one component. There is no magic pill, and no substitute for hard work.
-There are many, many advantages to being vegan I have found, especially in day to day health. Now, it is definitely possible to get sick, but I haven't had so much as a common cold since becoming vegan nearly 10 years ago. Most people can't imagine almost never getting sick, yet I can't imagine never not feeling great.
-Any change is hard, and I can't say it will be easier or harder as a college student. I will say however that I grew up without knowing a single other vegetarian for over 10 years, then switched to vegan in college with little trouble.
Best of luck, whatever you do!
Don't do it bro. Here’s why you can totally function being a vegetarian and running, I did it for many years, but when you cut out all animal products you limit the places that you can get protein from. Which means you will have to supplement it with soy because it’s the most common vegetable based protein out there and vegans rely on it. The problem is that soy will boost your estrogen level and decrease your testosterone there by making you a slower less healthy runner. It’s not a healthy way to go. There are lots of unprocessed vegetarian foods out there humans weren't meant to only eat plants. We are by design omnivores.