Post a vulgar comment on the internet and lose your job

So much for freedom of speech. Our forefathers would be proud.

If he is doing that on a school computer he should be disciplined. If he was doing this when he should have been teaching it is even worse (not doing lunch, planning period ect.). If the principal wanted to fire/pressure to resign an incompetent, lazy teacher then this is a perfect excuse for him. If the guy was a good teacher and the principal was satisfied with his results he wouldn't have been pressured to resign.

So much wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. Our forefathers would be proud.

This isn't a freedom of speech issue. It isn't like the guy did this in his home, he used a government computer in a manner that it wasn't intended to be used for. He also probably did it when he was teaching. This isn't a freedom of speech issue it is a responsibility/doing your job issue.

Regardless of where you fall on this issue, the fact is that Greenbaum pissed off the internet. That is a bad idea. People on reddit.com have already found his home address and phone number. Once 4chan.org jumps on this story, this guy's life is going to be hell. Those are the guys who hacked Sarah Palin's e-mail.

You absolutely have freedom of speech, but you do not have freedom from any consequences associated with your speech. The classic precedent is that you can not shout "fire" in a crowded theater, or put another way, your right to swing your fist ends where another man's nose begins. A teacher is certainly free to say whatever he or she wants, but they are also responsible for the repercussions of their actions. This is the very essence of conservatism, you are off message.

I don't think this is a freedom of speech issue. I'm not sure why people are talking about that.

It's a privacy issue. The question is whether or not he violated the post dispatch website's privacy policy, which states that they will not share personal information with third parties.

I work part-time in a school, and have to say I would never post anything remotely questionable from a school computer. We sign internet use agreements with our contract and the guidelines are very clear.

I know that there are a lot of teachers and university staff (also state employees) on this forum, and am amazed at what they are writing, presumably during work hours.

get ugly wrote:

In a controversial move, Mr. Greenbaum decided to call the school.

See, this right here is what's a true shame. Honestly, what in the world would compel this guy to go through the trouble of calling the school for a benign, seemingly anonymous internet post? Was he really that bored with his life that he took the time to look up the number to the school and call to report this?? Unless the "anonymous" user threatened harm to himself or others, it's really none of this douchebag's business what e-mail address he was using to post.

So much wrote:So much for freedom of speech. Our forefathers would be proud.

Oh please. There's never been a right to tell your boss to blow you without the fear of getting fired.

Keith, I don't think you get the heart of the story... or maybe you do and you are just responding to that post... but this is more about the privacy issues involving website posting. You are a real person, and post as a real person, which takes a lot of balls.

Most people make up stupid names and post anonymously.

The thing is, as another person posted, is that Anonymous is mean as hell, and capable of awful things. This Greenbaum guy is going to get it, likely. I wouldn't worry about the reddit folks, it is the 4chan /b/ guys that he should beware of over the next year.

It is like snitchin' on someone in the hood. I guess it makes perfect sense to do so, but watch your muthaf***in' back.

Keith Stone wrote:

Oh please. There's never been a right to tell your boss to blow you without the fear of getting fired.

The one who should be afraid is Greenbaum; he's come under the scrutiny of the Anonymous of 4chan. These people take their anonymity very seriously, and people who violate internet privacy policy tend to get hit pretty hard by these guys. These are the people who hacked Sarah Palin's email. These are the people you read about who make videos of torturing animals that get posted on the internet. Every sick, evil, depraved thing on the internet is either from or can be found on 4chan, and this guy has pissed them off. These Anonymous are legion. They do not forgive. They do not forget.

So much wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. Our forefathers would be proud.

Our forefathers would understand freedom of speech...unlike you.

Christopher Poole wrote:

These are the people who hacked Sarah Palin's email. These are the people you read about who make videos of torturing animals that get posted on the internet. Every sick, evil, depraved thing on the internet is either from or can be found on 4chan

come on moot, these people aren't all bad...after all, they are the ones who invented lolcats and rickrolling. INVENTED! they've come together in the past to use the power of teh internets in finding and having cat torturers arrested. point is, these guys GET the internet and have a very well-defined notion of what they think it should be. i look forward to reading follow-ups on this story.

i left a job at Nike 5 years ago. a year after leaving Nike i posted something on Dyestat that by no means contained confidential Nike information, but it did contain information that would have been difficult to obtain by someone without being on the inside of Nike for some time.

i posted it under my dyestat username, which gives no indication of my true identity and i did not sign the post with my name.

my post received a lot of response as it provided some revelations about the the NXN -vs- FLN debate and how the business and politics between FL and Nike were deeper than most fans could ever imagine.

within 48 hours of posting it i received a call from Nike's legal department threatening to take action if i did not cease my actions.

This means that Dyestat turned over my user information to Nike. because i never signed any kind of and NDA when i left nike or when i was employed i was not concerned about Nike taking action against me. they could have done very little i imagine.

however, i was quite upset that Dyestat blatantly turned over my info to Nike. that had to be some kind of violation. i never dug to deep into it, but it confirmed everything i ever thought about Dyestat being a bunch of pawns.

GHEY MAN wrote:

Keith, I don't think you get the heart of the story... or maybe you do and you are just responding to that post... but this is more about the privacy issues involving website posting. You are a real person, and post as a real person, which takes a lot of balls.

Most people make up stupid names and post anonymously.

The thing is, as another person posted, is that Anonymous is mean as hell, and capable of awful things. This Greenbaum guy is going to get it, likely. I wouldn't worry about the reddit folks, it is the 4chan /b/ guys that he should beware of over the next year.

It is like snitchin' on someone in the hood. I guess it makes perfect sense to do so, but watch your muthaf***in' back.

Quit worshiping 4chan. They're a bunch of maladjusted nerds still living with their parents, as they'll freely admit.

Mr. Greenbaum is a big Fin loser....he must hate his life so much actively look to destroy someone elses.....I hope some stranger randomly f***s up his life

i thought nike bought dyestat a couple years ago?

not many youtube copycats have made it. definitely none have nor are close to making it in the runnning a nd T&F world. dyestat sold to school sports to get out of bad debts. a few years later rudy chapa picked up the pieces. next espn bought dyestat for pennies on the dollar. everyone still has their day jobs. "it's for the love of the sport".