Wait, I had not read it carefully but just noticed that he said "Academics was obviously a huge part since eventually that's what I'm going to college for!"
Academics and the University of Oregon should not be mentioned on the same page. It looks like the old used car salesman got another one. As PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.
titley winks wrote:
As PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.
"This way to the GREAT EGRESS!"
What are you? A Stanford man, maybe Princeton? There are schools out there that offer good academics that aren't ranked in the top 25 in the nation. Academics are what you make of it most of the time.A lot of these scumbags that have crashed the U.S. economy went to "academic" schools. They're doing real well, aren't they?
titley winks wrote:
Wait, I had not read it carefully but just noticed that he said "Academics was obviously a huge part since eventually that's what I'm going to college for!"
Academics and the University of Oregon should not be mentioned on the same page. It looks like the old used car salesman got another one. As PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.
for pac10 nobody goes to or, orst, az, azst for the academics. kids looking for academics go to usc, stan, cal, ucla which are world class unis. neil armstrong went to usc. ucla & cal get the most fresman apps in the nation.
neil armstrong, really? Well I guess for all the aspiring student athlete astronauts they should go there! You f***ing c***. We should only go where NASA plays a role? f*** you in the ass. Oregon is a great school, is it UCLA? No, it is not. USC is in a terrible f***ing ghetto of a neighborhood, BTW, Neil or no Neil/
bruinboy wrote:
What are you? A Stanford man, maybe Princeton? There are schools out there that offer good academics that aren't ranked in the top 25 in the nation. Academics are what you make of it most of the time.
A lot of these scumbags that have crashed the U.S. economy went to "academic" schools. They're doing real well, aren't they?
titley winks wrote:Wait, I had not read it carefully but just noticed that he said "Academics was obviously a huge part since eventually that's what I'm going to college for!"
Academics and the University of Oregon should not be mentioned on the same page. It looks like the old used car salesman got another one. As PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.
really, i agree, especially the comment about our economy. this whole such and such is not academic ticks me off. their is no reason to criticize a state school because it is, well, a state school. some of you need to accept their are multiple reasons to pick a school and a good mind will find success anywhere.
titley winks wrote:
Wait, I had not read it carefully but just noticed that he said "Academics was obviously a huge part since eventually that's what I'm going to college for!"
Academics and the University of Oregon should not be mentioned on the same page. It looks like the old used car salesman got another one. As PT Barnum said - there's a sucker born every minute.
Exactly. What was Phil Knight thinking when he enrolled at Oregon? He blew his chances at everything! There's no way the 16,475 undergraduates in Eugene will ever find sustainable employment! They just go there, study and learn for four or five years and then do nothing.
There are also schools that really shine in a few particular areas. If Schrader wanted to study Optical Science, he would have chosen Arizona because it's probably the best in the US. If he'd wanted to study Packaging, he would have chosen Michigan State. Journalism or Architecture, Arizona State. Aviation, North Dakota. And I'm sure Oregon has some disciplines in which it really shines; I just don't know what they are because I've never coached someone who ended up going there.
[quote]bruinboy wrote:
A lot of these scumbags that have crashed the U.S. economy went to "academic" schools. They're doing real well, aren't they?[quote]
Their companies are in the toilet but the big cash bonuses just keep rolling in for these guys.
UO has the same academics as Lane CC down the street. Lane hosts Oregon "Honors College". It's a lure for alumni money not an "Honors" atall. Eugene has been overrun by meth addicts like never before. This place is like Europe 1000 years ago, with roaming bands of aboriginal Caucasoid barbarian tribes terrorizing the civilized. The economy here in Eugene is so bad, the Mexicans have stopped coming. Even the 24 hour Muchas Gracias food chain has to close at midnight due to the lack of Mexican customers, but I've seen Albeto and Rudy munching there supporting La Raza.
Sports Marketing (http://www2.lcb.uoregon.edu/app_aspx/wsmcabout.aspx) and Education
(http://news.opb.org/article/4842-university-oregon-grad-schools-rank-high/) are strengths at UO.
Back to the main point, he will be good but not great. All the people who are already predicting him as a future elite are nuts.
What crashed the economy were morons who overlevered and undersaved. The banks didn't help the problem (they provided credit to those who shouldn't have been asking for it).
But let's not blame this on Wall Street Ivy Leaguers or some stupid thing you probably read in the paper.
It STARTS with people like you, and me, and Joe Schmo down the street wanting to keep up with the Jones', and buy more then he can afford.
When the assumption is that house prices will continue to increase and the country will continue to grow, its easy to think you can afford more today because you will be worth more tomorrow. It doesn't work that way.
IT THEN goes to the banks. The banks should have kept the generally STUPID public at bay for their own protection. But they wanted to make the quick buck, and so lent to everyone. They encouraged it. There were those that were unscrupulous, and flat out lied and cheated, and there were those that front-loaded the P&L and backloaded the risk, to pad their current bonus. When your upside is millions and your downside is your job, and you're 25-35, the incentives become perverse. But without demand from an aforementioned greedy public who don't understand basic economics, this wouldn't happen.
The next to blame are the rating agencies and the government. These are supposed to be the governing bodies and protective forces for the people. They not only turned a blind eye to what was going on, but lied about the quality of certain instruments and chose not to investigate and probe obvious Ponzi Schemes, horrible lending practices, and the core message being sent from the genius, Alan Greenspan. As brilliant as Greenspan was, he was as much to blame as anyone... because he made the general public feel TOO good. He thought everyone should be able to buy a house (sorry, great ideal, but its not true) and propagated the idea that we were in a Golden Age of prosperity (because of technology).
So to say it was the "smart" guys at the bank who put this country in its current mess is ridiculous. It goes to show 2 things: 1) how shallow your thought process is and 2) how much of a sheep you really are. You will believe what the papers tell you on the headlines and never think about things for yourself.
Its the same line of thought that got us into this mess. Interest Only Mortgages? 100% Financing? Who does that? Who's to blame, the moron speculator or guy who doesn't understand what debt is, or the bank who gives him the loan? Both are equally dumb... but there needs to be both sides if there is to be a crises.
Acknowledge that, and you see the stupid state school guys contributed as much as the stupid Ivy League guys. And the smart state school guys probably avoided their personal wealth getting cut in half about as well as the smart ivy league guys.
This is the truth whether you like it or not.
What fool passes up UNC-Chapel Hill for UOregon?
And what kind of parents let that happen?
And 1 wrote:
What fool passes up UNC-Chapel Hill for UOregon?
And what kind of parents let that happen?
I think the kid is going to UO for running, not basketball.
hsrunner04 wrote:
And 1 wrote:What fool passes up UNC-Chapel Hill for UOregon?
And what kind of parents let that happen?
I think the kid is going to UO for running, not basketball.
According to him "academics was obviously a huge part since eventually that's what I'm going to college for!" Couldn't have been too much of a huge part as he chose the least academically prestigous university.
Kudos to Brian Shrader. He, like Jordan Hasan, ahead of him, he is a very bright young man who looked at the whole picture of the University of Oregon and what it can do for him. The U of O may not have the Harvard reputation for graduate research, but it is a fine university that will provide as good an education as Brian wants it to be. Many brilliant students have preceded him at the University of Oregon, and many have gone on to very successful careers.
Only an idiot would come here to bash an American institute of learning.
Oregon picked up great kid and a great athlete. If any of you actually knew Brian you would realize he will be an asset to the Oregon program.
We would have loved to have had him here at UNC
tufts vet school wrote:
their is no reason to criticize a state school because it is, well, a state school.
It's a criticism of THIS PARTICULAR state school.
There's an odd disconnect between someone who mentions how important academics are, and yet turns down much better academic schools (some of which are state schools.)
Michigan, UNC-Chapel Hill, Cal, , UVa - these are great public schools.
Then you've got a "2nd tier" - schools like Maryland, Purdue, Pitt, Texas and Rutgers.
Third level are the Oregons, UMass, Oklahoma, and South Carolina.