50+ Weekly Training Thread

daily 3 hour walks so 21 hours of walking gets me 3/4 of the way to 28 hpw which will be about 100 miles.

I notice a difference in my legs.They have spring.

Overall I feel really good and am sleeping better.Nothing like not waking up until it is time to get up!

zappos.com

http://www.zappos.com/retro-saucony

great long lasting shoes that use the old

denser sheet eva midsole.

About 1/4 mile of running this week. Taking time off with a bit of a calf issue.

I like minimalistic shoes. I have been using Puma K Streets this Fall and bought a pair of Asics Hyperspeeds for the marathons. The Asics are about the only "real" running shoe that I have used successfully in the past few years. I have always liked racing shoes to run in: anything else and my feet don't like it. I do not do POSE but I just have a funky foot left and leg that does its own thing. Can't figure out how to fix it so I let it be and the "less" shoe I have the better it works.

28ish miles in four runs.

Sun- easy 5 including 6 short hill sprints

Tues- easy 6

Thurs- 8 1/2 with 7 1/2 @ 7:35 pace

Sat- 9 including a long tempo of 6 miles in 36:23

Liking to space the harder runs, I was going to run hard on Thurs instead of Sat, but the guys were all tired from racing the week before. Still their easy running on Thurs, ended up being faster than I had wanted...knowing that we were going to go harder on Sat.

Lately I've had good luck with Brooks, still have T3s that I think are great shoes. My feet feel as good after racing in them as they do with just running in any trainer. I think the STs are a bit heavy for the amount of protection they give. My harder running is mostly in trainers, even on the track.

Charlie S.

Which of the Saucony retro shoes do you use? The Bullets look interesting. I only recall using Saucony shoes back in the 80's, the Jazz I think. It was black sith silver.

For non-running I have used nothing but Vivo Barefoot shoes for almost a year now.

well, i finally had a week of what actually seemed like running. just short of 50 mile, plus an 8-mile hike, and i only turned my ankle once. although i still can't do any trail running, i enjoyed a longish run of 1:45 and held steady through a workout of seven 800s (200-m jog rest) at 10 sec/mi faster than 10K PR pace. this pleasantly surprised me, since i haven't had healthy enough legs to even step on the track since may when i had as-yet-undiagnosed anemia.

my go-to trail shoes are the discontinued NB 790 trail flats, and i like their replacement -- NB 100 -- too, although i've only tried them on a soft-dirt road. on roads and hardpack rails-to-trails surfaces, i've been using the free 3.0, and my track and racing shoe is the asics hyperspeed II.

Greetings again, Geezers! :) Here's my last week.

Sun, 11/08: 10.25 miles easy in Eugene, OR. (7:30/mile avg. pace).

Mon, 11/09: planned OFF.

Tue, 11/10: track workout. Run in the dark and cold rain. 1000m (3:41), 900m (3:23), 800m (2:59), 700m (2:35), 600m (2:12), 500m (1:48), 400m (1:28), 200m (:40). 2+ mile warmup and cooldown. Days total = ~8 miles. Interesting thing was that since the track was pretty dark and it was raining, I had a hard time seeing my watch. So I ran this primarily by feel, aiming for six-minute pace on the longer stuff and a bit faster on the shorter stuff. I was surprised how close I came.

Wed, 11/11: 6 miles easy (7:30/mile avg. pace).

Thu, 11/12: 7+ miles easy (7:31/mile avg. pace). Stupid Garmin 405 wigged out halfway through, so I didn't have the accurate mileage.

Fri, 11/13: planned OFF. Cross-trained 1/2 hour intervals on LifeCycle (2:00 @ 100rpm, level 4, 1:00 @ 80rpm, level 3), followed by 5000m on indoor rowing machine (21:56).

Sat, 11/14: 6.5 miles very easy (8:10/mile avg. pace) on Lacamas trail.

Hit the weights on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu.

Shoes: currently I train in the Nike Air Pegasus and Air Span 4 and do my faster stuff in the Asics Gel Speedstar IIIs and Brooks Racer ST4s.

I've been going back and forth with the Asics Piranha and Mateo. But last Wednesday I swung by a Nike Factory Outlet and got a pair of Elites for $30. They seemed great and I did a bit over 90 minutes in them on Thursday with 3 x 1.5 mile reps which was a very good run for me.

But today I went out for a long run planning to go 2:15 or so but ended up being out for about three hours because around 1 3/4 hours my right knee started giving me all sorts of trouble. I don't know if the shoes were the problem or not but I'll be a little hesitant to use them again. It's the same problem I have with the Hyperspeeds though and that has happened regularly enough to know that the Hyperspeed is not a good shoe for me though I wish it was because it's much more reasonably priced than the Piranha.

TDF wrote:

Charlie S.

Which of the Saucony retro shoes do you use? The Bullets look interesting. I only recall using Saucony shoes back in the 80's, the Jazz I think. It was black sith silver.

For non-running I have used nothing but Vivo Barefoot shoes for almost a year now.

Hi,

They quit selling the ones I like, the Saucony Original Jazz AC.

The AC have a nice mesh upper with a very thin midsole.

I bought 15 pairs between 35 and 50 bucks a pop.

This was several years ago.I still have 9 pairs.

They last forever.

If I were buying now I would go with either the bullets or low profile vegan.

New shoes models use compression eva midsole versus sheet eva.The new compression eva feels soft and cushy but it quickly compresses and deforms.The old sheet eva does not feel soft but it holds up real well.

I also did alot of barefoot running.Nothing better than running barefoot in soft muddy grass.

I tried to run for the first time in two weeks this morning. I've been doing exercises, incl. with the foam roller, for my IT issues and have not had the trouble I had last week in walking and going up (or, worse, down) stairs. Just under 4 minutes until felt anything so stopped. No lingering effects so I'm happy.

I wear Asics 1130s, and have worn the prior shoes in the 1000 line for years. I've also added a pair of Asics Pulses, which have slightly less of a heel to toe drop. I've found myself embroiled in the bare v. shod debate on my blog, but I'm happy wearing shoes but don't have the courage to go minimalist. I now race in Saucony A3s, after wearing a couple of generations of now-discontinued Asics Magic Racers, and I like them.

BTW, for our next topic, how about how we deal with running groupies who flirt with us after races, saying things like, "Oh, but surely you're in the 40+ age group?"

Not that it's ever happened to me. I just want to be prepared.

Monday evening: 7.5 miles, 10K tempo run embedded

Tuesday: Planned off

Wednesday morning: 14 miles

Thursday evening: (treadmill)6.5 mile interval session, only ran the "hard" parts at 7% grade instead of for speed

Friday: Planned off

Saturday morning: 14 miles

Sunday afternoon: 12 miles on cross country course

Total: 54 miles

Training shoe: NB 737 (I liked the NB 1085 better but they discontinued that line)

Racing shoe: NB 903 (I can't find racing flats I like for my wide feet)

Trail running and backpacking: NB 840

I should branch out from the NBs but I like the variety of widths and shoe lasts they offer for my wide feet.

A nice steady 55 miles this week. I still was a little dead-legged at the beginning of the week, but I kept most of the running moderate and the legs seem to be coming around the second half of this week.

I seem to have decent mechanics and lean towards minimalist shoes, although weekdays I do most of my running on pavement and alternate a couple of pairs of Mizuno Wave Riders for a little more cushioning. Weekends on trails I generally run in a pair of Mizuno XC racing shoes.

45 miles (from 4 runs) this week - typical for this time of the year.

I'm probably on my 5th or 6th pair of Lunar Racers (typically rotate 2 pairs). Can't say enough good things about them. Only 'weakness' is the upper which I've cut a few times - but easily repaired with super-glue.

Had my second week of solid training this Fall...injury free and all. I ran 3 workouts and a long run each of the last two weeks now. This week will be more mild as my body is now yelling at me a bit.

Shoes? I run barefoot on as many easy days as I can find grass. That's about 15 miles per week. It has helped me to stay injury free in the lower legs/feet. I wish I would have trained barefoot 20 years ago. I do almost all of my other running in racing flats (or very light trainers - less than 9oz).

I used to run in the heaviest running shoes I could find. It was a mistake. It slowed my cedence and left me plodding way too much.

21 miles running this week after a week off. A couple good runs mixed with a couple bad runs.

M-walked 2.6

T-4.1 w 2 tempo in 14:20

W-4.2 w 8 striders

T-walked 3

F-6 in 66 min, walked a lot the last 2 miles

S-off, strength training w 15 min cycle

S-6.8 in 60 min, finally feel better

I'm on my 2nd pair of Nike Vomero's. They are well cushioned but flexible for quick runs and I got 600+ miles on my first pair.

All runs done ta 130 - 138 heart rate range.

M 25 minutes on nordic track

T 37.5 minutes on grass

W 25 minutes on grass

Th No run gave body a rest due to CT scan as follow up for spot on lung. figured with the stress of the consrast dye with one kidney I would take it a day off.

F Just didn't feel like going out, justified it as my body could use another day post the CT scan.

Ss 25 minutes on mountain trails legs felt refreshed.

Su 75 minutes mixture of grass, dirt trails and asphalt, windy as all get up, quads felt knackered.Cold pool post run.

On grass and trails run in adidas adizero XTs asphalt use the lunar racers, legs seem to recover better with these two shoes.

Missed a day so ended up with 30 miles for the week. Feeling a bit off and running reflected it.

Ran in Brooks Radius for years. Relatively light cushion shoe good for the hard surfaces I run on. Brooks finally dumped the line and replacement didn't feel right so trying Addidas again for the first time since high school. Race in old pair of Brooks Hyperions but never train in them.

Mon; 2 hour bike ride.

Tues.7 mile run-56 mins.

Weds.1.5 hour MTB ride

Thurs. off

Fri. off

Sat. off

Sunday. 4 mile AM run. Bike ride PM, 2:10.

All conducted at approx. 60% effort (100 to 110HR out of a 178 Max.)

Shoes; Inov-8's or NB790's on trails. Roads, Mizuno Wave Elixir's for training. Racing in Nike Lunar Racer's.

I worked briefly for Eastbay back in the day.(late 70's). The guys got Nike to front me shoes as a wear tester for a couple years. Can't say as I was good at it, but it developed a fetish for new shoes that has survived the decades.

The shoes mentioned above are my favorite arrows in a quiver containing like 20 pair currently.

I concur that less may be more, and lean towards the ranks of minimalism.

Good living and inspired training to all in the week ahead.

No running and minimal exercise for 2nd week. Probably 8 hr of rehab including ice, stretching, and a little bit of upper body. Knee is incrementally better but still has a ways to go. Will step up with some more upper body and cardio work. Hope to be skiing XC soon. Meanwhile coaching. Shoes Atomics. OHHH! Running. New balance 763 for general miles and asics light trainers for tempo and race pace type running.

I guess I can now post since I turned 50 in Oct. And I've had issues with my ankle and anemia/vit. D

I run in a pair of END Stumptown and the PBJ and a pair of Asics DS Trainers, mostly. I race in the Asics Dirt Divas Icross country). Due to an recurring ankle issue, I've been on the roads recently - way more than normal. I usually get about 10 miles/week on roads and the rest on grass or trails and now it's pretty much all on roads. The ankle must get better soon since the roads are bad for me.

I raced last Sunday (a 6k xc). This week was:M - 7 mi easy on grass (carefully), T - 8.5 miles road W - on the track 5 x 600m, allegedly at 5k goal pace, but actually faster than I expected with one 2:18 and the rest 2:16s), 200m jog, total 10.5 miles Th- 7.5 miles (ran out of time to run longer), F - easy 4.5, S - another 6k xc race, total 9 miles, Su - 15.5 miles (so about 62 miles)

I am working on my ab strength daily and want to add in some weight work. I'm running xc nationals in 4 weeks.