From this morning's San Antonio half marathon..
From this morning's San Antonio half marathon..
If this is not a troll attempt, then I see his other half marathon thread skyrocketing to 500 posts.
Nope, that's the official result.
timmins wrote:
Nope, that's the official result.
Which bring up the question why Ryan Hall prefers to train with him, who is obviously one step down, instead of Meb.
Answer: talking about Jesus is more important than winning.
Yes, I noticed that, too. His prerace talk about 62-63 seemed sincere to me, but also seemed (I think that this is the correct word) delusional, or at least highly unrealistic in light of past performances. Has he ever broken 65 on a record-quality course?
Although his sub-2:14 at Chicago back in 2000 makes it difficult for me to discount everything he says about what he has done in the past (in training or in racing) or what he expects to do in the future, I do find myself questioning some of his statements even more now. I'm especially eager to hear the details of that 47:32 10-miler in January 2001 that he has repeatedly published as his PR. Although it's not an unreasonable PR for someone who has run under 2:14 on a record-quality marathon course, I haven't seen any other results that would confirm that level of performance for ten miles.
It was a very warm morning, @70 deg and humid. But it wasn't that bad. Everyone seemed about 1 min slow.
I don't know how to take this guy. If he just said "I'm a fitness model that likes to run" i wouldn't have anything against him. But the long list of useless accomplishments on his site, the false PRs, and the talk about running times that he should know he is not capable of gets old quick.
You guys are all assholes who talk down about athletes whom you dont know..it was humid and hot and josh is training hard for CIM. Give it a rest.
I am an old geezer who recalls when 1:06:44 would make you a good local neighborhood runner, but that's about it.
He is a faster Dean Karnazes
it was hot here in san antonio guys, give him a rest... im a 1:45 half marathoner and i ran 1:55
anyways
joemontana wrote:
im a 1:45 half marathoner and i ran 1:55
Well, maybe you were a 1:45 half-marathoner once, but it appears that you're a 1:55 half-marathoner now.
maybe he kept running and ran an 50k.
This was a race, not a workout. Cox lives to run amazing workouts, not races. You probably know several people like him that were on a XC or track team in your past. Chicago 2000 was an aberration.
I give admiration to a guy like Josh Cox, who walks the walk. Perhaps he hasn’t performed up to his abilities as of late, but I think it is only a matter of time before he pops a good one. At the end of the day he is still a 2:13 guy and you can’t take anything away from that. Good work Josh. The hay is in the barn and it’s only a matter of time before you show these internet trolls who haven’t run even close to your pr’s, what you are made of. It’s easy to criticize, but know that the silent majority are cheering for you.
It is ok to train with Josh Cox if it doesn't affect his performance. But since Hall gets closer to Cox, his performance got farther from what people are expecting from Hall. And.... Hall's recent pre-race talks were exactly the same as Cox: all delusional race time that never come close.....
Nutella1 wrote:
timmins wrote:Nope, that's the official result.
Which bring up the question why Ryan Hall prefers to train with him, who is obviously one step down, instead of Meb.
Answer: talking about Jesus is more important than winning.
Cox's former coach, Kevin McCarey, thinks Cox has mismanaged his career and that his best days are behind him.
“Some people learn from their lessons,” said McCarey, himself a former 2:13 marathoner. “He never learned from his lessons. His running ended a long time ago.”
From a training perspective, McCarey offers three main criticisms of Cox: that he logged far too many miles; that he ran too
much by himself; and that he let himself be coached by Italy's Dr. Gabriele Rosa, who often went months without seeing Cox train.
“Yeah, I did too many miles,” admitted Cox, who once racked up consecutive weeks of 188, 186, 175 and 172 miles, at altitude. “That was five years ago. I've learned.”
To a degree, it pains McCarey to be so critical of Cox.
“As a human being, he's one of the most quality people I've ever met on this planet,” McCarey said. “Just a very loving human being.”
Yet McCarey's criticism doesn't stop with Cox's training.
“He got into other things. You can't get into other things if you're a marathoner, if you want to be one of the best,” McCarey said. “You have to devote yourself to it, and he didn't.”
At the Boston Marathon expo in 2004, 10 weeks after finishing seventh at his second Olympic Trials, Cox passed on the race but participated in an unusual publicity event, setting the world record for the fastest marathon on a treadmill (2:31:04).
WindsoLancer wrote:
I give admiration to a guy like Josh Cox, who walks the walk. Perhaps he hasn’t performed up to his abilities as of late, but I think it is only a matter of time before he pops a good one. At the end of the day he is still a 2:13 guy and you can’t take anything away from that. Good work Josh. The hay is in the barn and it’s only a matter of time before you show these internet trolls who haven’t run even close to your pr’s, what you are made of. It’s easy to criticize, but know that the silent majority are cheering for you.
walks the walk?!?!?
1st of all, that makes no sense.
2nd of all...ru freaking kidding me???
his "talk" was 62-63. his "walk" was 66:44.
for the record...he's not a 2:13 guy... he's a 2:13:55 guy.
and once again, exposing his delusion has nothing to do with whether or not someone can run faster than him... completely irrelevant.
bump!
Mr boogity.....why don't you post your name and your times. Why are you so critical?