Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
the matrix isn't real...
hence you have the general population
Who says happiness is the ultimate goal in life? There are bigger things in this world than the bliss of ignorance.
Rahm Emmanuel wrote:
Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
You would think so but many of those are too stupid to realize they're supposed to be happy.
Rahm Emmanuel wrote:
Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
No, we need bloodshed
happiness, being and abstraction, would need a specific definition in this question.
is an ignorant and blissful being truly "happy"? would it be better to be a dog or a cat rather than having human consciousness?
or are we only aware of potential satisfaction and happiness because of an awareness of the proper antonyms?
-STS
fat, drunk and stupid
Rahm Emmanuel wrote:
If happiness is the ultimate goal in life...
It isn't. The closest thing to an "ultimate goal in life" is procreation. It's essentially all we're designed to do: make babies.
Rahm Emmanuel wrote:
Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
One for the philosophers. Fact is some poeple are actually only truly happy when they're angry, hating, dissatified in some way.
"there is only one success - to be able to spend your own life in your own way." - christopher morley
The problem comes from our definition of happiness. If we define it in purely hedonistic terms, then crackheads are the only truly happy people, and this is only after hitting the pipe. For most of us, we would disagree with this definition of happiness.
The Greeks defined happiness as eudaimonia which means "a good god within" or "flourishing." It is a difficult concept, but it is akin to when someone is in the zone usually performing something in an excellent way. This is happiness or "flow." You want all the flow you can get in your life.
Happiness is not a tranquil emotional state such as what Zen Buddhists achieve. A good nap can get you this. Flourishing people laugh, curse, fight, or whatever in order to achieve their ends.
The best example of a happy person I can give you is Andy Dufresne from The Shawshank Redemption. Despite the hell of his predicament, he found a way to flourish and triumph. He built a library, amassed a fortune, helped others to education, played chess, got revenge, and tunneled his way out of that place. That character gives us an example to live by.
To make this running related, this is why we run even though the couch and some cold beers are much sweeter. We put in the miles. Then, we hit the couch with the beers to watch some football.
I suggest reading Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's Flow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIeFJCqsPs
Out.
Rahm Emmanuel wrote:
Isn't it better to be naive, ignorant, and dumb?
Hence, 70% of americans are happy,. the other 30% want america out of the middle east and afg/iraq completely
"It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied."
ilgore wrote:
Happiness is not a tranquil emotional state such as what Zen Buddhists achieve. A good nap can get you this. .
A common misconception. You need to read up more on Zen Buddhism. Most proponents expressly argue against this form of meditation where one simply becomes relaxed and "tranquil." Instead, supposedly, when one achieves enlightenment, one finally understands the true nature of all beings and life, and this realization allows one to no longer see life and everything in it as dichotomy, but as unity. While this brings about extreme happiness, one does not continue on in a simple tranquil, dream-like state, but actually experiences life more intensely and fully and creatively (though trying to read up on zen can be extremely frustrating, because basically what you will read is this: zen can not be explained in normal, logical explanations, but can only be experienced. And every time you read a concrete statement on what it is, another expert will say something exactly the opposite. This is partly a game the zen masters play to try to break your mind from seeing things in a black and white, yes or no manner. ).
well son.... wrote:
hence you have the general population
And I guess you're better than the general population, right?
ilgore wrote:
The problem comes from our definition of happiness. If we define it in purely hedonistic terms, then crackheads are the only truly happy people, and this is only after hitting the pipe. For most of us, we would disagree with this definition of happiness.
The Greeks defined happiness as eudaimonia which means "a good god within" or "flourishing." It is a difficult concept, but it is akin to when someone is in the zone usually performing something in an excellent way. This is happiness or "flow." You want all the flow you can get in your life.
Happiness is not a tranquil emotional state such as what Zen Buddhists achieve. A good nap can get you this. Flourishing people laugh, curse, fight, or whatever in order to achieve their ends.
The best example of a happy person I can give you is Andy Dufresne from The Shawshank Redemption. Despite the hell of his predicament, he found a way to flourish and triumph. He built a library, amassed a fortune, helped others to education, played chess, got revenge, and tunneled his way out of that place. That character gives us an example to live by.
To make this running related, this is why we run even though the couch and some cold beers are much sweeter. We put in the miles. Then, we hit the couch with the beers to watch some football.
I suggest reading Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's Flow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIeFJCqsPsOut.
I always liked you, kilgore, even though I hate you.