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Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 8:35AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you think about it, it is very strange that we drink another animal's milk. Cow milk is meant for calves. I think it would be more natural to drink human milk. It would also have the added benefits of reducing pollution caused by cattle, and providing good part time jobs to some low-income women.
A Religious Conservative
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 9:52AM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, except that every woman's milk is specifically designed for her child, not just for any human. It would make as much sense as drinking cow milk though, I will give you that.

We breast fed our kids until they were 18 months, but after that my wife was done.
me no iglesias
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 10:04AM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Depends on the health of the human .
rhyikmht
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 11:49AM - in reply to me no iglesias Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I can think of many females I would suckle from.
got milk?
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 6:37PM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
One of the reasons that milk production would be a great job is that the women would get health benefits and food included, just like modern cattle. Of course we would make them free range women, no growth hormones. Also I think that if we mixed all the milk together, then it would be general enough to be natural for most humans.
haha no yo
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/5/2009 6:40PM - in reply to A Religious Conservative Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

A Religious Conservative wrote:

Well, except that every woman's milk is specifically designed for her child, not just for any human. It would make as much sense as drinking cow milk though, I will give you that.

We breast fed our kids until they were 18 months, but after that my wife was done.




Who is "we"?

I bet "we" also almost won the game until "we" fumbled on the goal line.
well.
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 4:01AM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It is not natural for ANY adult mammals to drink milk, no matter where it comes from.
Nonsense.....
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 4:32AM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Humans began to domesticate goats about 12000 years ago and cattle 10000 years ago. Among other things, this provided a supply of milk, which offers a good supply of calories and high quality protein. Some humans in cattle-raising societies had a genetic advantage in their ability to comfortably drink milk, and their descendants enjoy that advantage today.

Arguments about drinking cows milk being strange or unnatural are completely bogus. It's natural for humans to use their advantages to improve their chances of survival and their children's chances of survival. It's no less natural for humans to domesticate animals and drink their milk than it is for them to domesticate plants, smelt metals, or develop a system of written communication. Yet the anti-milk crowd loves to post about how drinking milk as adults is unnatural because no other species does it ... while conveniently forgetting that posting on the internet is equally unnatural using that criterion.
Delete this Thread !
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 4:42AM - in reply to got milk? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Enough with the Gay Texan & Gay Navy Sailor jokes. This thread will be deleted soon !
Rahm Emmanuel
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 6:29AM - in reply to Delete this Thread ! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I heard Obama is male lactator.

Shhh...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uriynCwqwEc
Sir Lance-alot
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 8:16AM - in reply to Nonsense..... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thank you "nonsense". You wrote exactly what I planning on writing. I believe that I read recently that the genetic mutation that allowed human adults to tolerate milk increased dramatically in these european populations during this time, demonstrating that the ability to tolerate milk was important for survival at this time. An important "NATURAL selection" development.

Oh, and since it is clearly unnatural for man to fly through the air, since he is no a bird, I will never fly on an airplane again.

Another funny argument by anti-milk people is: since a lot of people are lactose intolerant, therefore no one should drink milk. What?? A lot of people are allergic to peanuts, should I cut those out of my diet too.....you know, just in case?

OK, here is an excerpt saying essentially the same thing to what I had read recently:

" Whenever it started, the mutation spread extremely rapidly through Northern and Central Europe. In only a few thousand years – the evolutionary blink of an eye, considering that our branch of the family tree split off from that of the chimps five or six million years ago – the mutation went from uncommon to very common.

"It's incredibly quick," says Joachim Burger, an anthropologist at Mainz University who co-authored the study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. "It's a trait that rises from close to zero to close to 100 per cent in England. It's enormously quick."

Clearly, being able to drink milk had to have given a pretty big survival advantage to become so common so quickly. Burger says that milk drinkers probably had a nutritional edge that helped them get through lean times.

While the only choice of a lactose-intolerant herder facing starvation was to start killing cows (or wait for the cheese to ripen), a lactose-tolerant herder could just keep drinking milk, and come out of the famine well-nourished and with his herd of cows undepleted.

Even in less dire circumstances, a milk drinker would probably stay better nourished and therefore more likely to survive and pass on his or her genes to the next generation.

In fact, lactose tolerance is such a great advantage, it seems to have developed and spread more than once in human history. Recent studies on African and Middle Eastern people who drink milk show that they have completely different mutations than the Europeans.

In other words, herders in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East all developed lactose tolerance independently of each other, and all found it so useful that the trait became common in their descendants."






Nonsense..... wrote:

Humans began to domesticate goats about 12000 years ago and cattle 10000 years ago. Among other things, this provided a supply of milk, which offers a good supply of calories and high quality protein. Some humans in cattle-raising societies had a genetic advantage in their ability to comfortably drink milk, and their descendants enjoy that advantage today.

Arguments about drinking cows milk being strange or unnatural are completely bogus. It's natural for humans to use their advantages to improve their chances of survival and their children's chances of survival. It's no less natural for humans to domesticate animals and drink their milk than it is for them to domesticate plants, smelt metals, or develop a system of written communication. Yet the anti-milk crowd loves to post about how drinking milk as adults is unnatural because no other species does it ... while conveniently forgetting that posting on the internet is equally unnatural using that criterion.
Pass the Soy Drink Please
It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 10:07AM - in reply to Sir Lance-alot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sure you can make a point that it is natural in an opportunistic way, and you might even be convinced it's healthy, but you can't say it's not strange. If a full grown adult essentially breast feeding isn't strange, I don't know what is.
well, if you think about it
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 11:34AM - in reply to Pass the Soy Drink Please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Humans eat lots of wierd stuff. We eat peppers that are so hot they can damage your eyes. We eat fish that no other land species would ever be able to catch. You ever see a sea cucumber? People eat those. We drink alcohol, a poison that we make and ingest intentionally because it makes us feel good.

Offer a dish of milk to any carnivore or omnivore, and they'll drink it, guaranteed. Milk is awesome, total package. Sugar, protein, and fat, and you don't have to hunt something down and kill it to get it.
Pass the Soy Drink Please
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 12:10PM - in reply to well, if you think about it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"and you don't have to hunt something down and kill it to get it."

True, much easier. You just have to keep it all trustful and domesticated, make sure is has one pregnancy after another to keep its milk production up, take away all its rotten little milk-stealing calves, stuff the male calves in a veal shed for a couple of months before killing them, and, finally, eat her after five years or so when her milk production slows down. Much nicer. Dairy rocks. Cheese is so yummy.
Nonsense.....
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 1:26PM - in reply to Pass the Soy Drink Please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Pass the Soy Drink Please wrote:
If a full grown adult essentially breast feeding isn't strange, I don't know what is.


How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you make ridiculous statements like this?

If you don't like dairy farming then say so. Point out the things you find objectionable. It's OK. Intelligent people may disagree with you, but at least they won't laugh at you.
Hamnbone
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 1:36PM - in reply to Nonsense..... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've been drinking my wife's breast milk for about a year now. It doesn't taste the greatest but I've remained injury free the entire time. I think it works well. It contains loads of vitamins! We got her one of those pumps that will pump it out of her breasts so she will usually pump out 16oz per day that she lets me drink. I would recommend it to all.
26mi235
RE: Drinking Human milk more natural? 11/6/2009 1:37PM - in reply to Sir Lance-alot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

Thank you "nonsense". You wrote exactly what I planning on writing.


what he said (and him(her?) too.

As a related note, as a new parent one thing that surprised me is that our babies bowl movements generally did not smell (maybe it did when sick) until eating some 'foreign'(non-mother's milk). Essentially, so much of the milk product was used that there was little waste product, just the small i quantity cellular turnover, I guess.
Pass the Soy Drink Please
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 1:45PM - in reply to Nonsense..... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
By essentially breast feeding I mean drinking mammal milk. Not sure why that's such a ridiculous statement.
8989
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 1:48PM - in reply to Pass the Soy Drink Please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Pass the Soy Drink Please......will you just come out and state that your a Vegan. It's easier than just running around and bashing anyone and everyone that likes to drink milk. The truth shall set you free!!!!
lulzz
RE: It is Kinda Strange 11/6/2009 7:02PM - in reply to Pass the Soy Drink Please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Pass the Soy Drink Please wrote:

"and you don't have to hunt something down and kill it to get it."

True, much easier. You just have to keep it all trustful and domesticated, make sure is has one pregnancy after another to keep its milk production up, take away all its rotten little milk-stealing calves, stuff the male calves in a veal shed for a couple of months before killing them, and, finally, eat her after five years or so when her milk production slows down. Much nicer. Dairy rocks. Cheese is so yummy.


God damn right. Have you ever eaten veal?

Most cows milk for more than 5 years. You're proabbly getting your info from the megadairies; they produce a minority of dairy products in the country. And to be fair, the calves get milk until they're old enough to eat grain. What the hell else are you going to feed them? The cows, thanks to thousands of years of breeding, make much more milk than the calf needs to survive- a good cow will make somewhere in the range of 8-10 gallons of milk EVERY DAY.
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