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Zach and Cody
Exact Marathon Prediction Formula 11/3/2009 6:07AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was reading a formula in Runner's World to help me predict my marathon time. They said to take your half marathon time, multiply it by two, and add ten minutes.

I want to check this out so I plugged in the PRs of this Dathon Ritzenhopper guy people keep writing about.

DR HM - 1:00:00
DR FM - 2:10:00

(Half Marathon Time * 2) + 10 minutes = Marathon Time

(1:00:00 * 2) + 10:00 = 2:10:00

Exact. Not close. Exact.

That would have placed him well in New York City (although he wouldn't have been close to winning).

I ran a 1:16:00 half marathon at the Rock N Roll Half Marathon. I'm fully expecting to run 2:42:00 next month.

No need to discuss.

End of thread.
26mi235
RE: Exact Marathon Prediction Formula 11/3/2009 9:13AM - in reply to Zach and Cody Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
One formula is to take your 10k (road) time and multiple by 4.66. This only works if you have been doing the necessary distance so that you can run a marathon relatively as well as you can a 10K. (a track 10,000 will be a little faster and you might need to tack on a little bit)

An almost identical rule is to add 10% to your pace (1.10 x 42.2 is 46.42, divide by 10k and you have 4.642, marginally faster than the 4.66 rule.

Any rule that adds a fixed number of minutes will have flaws above and below certain pace levels. You might convert that 10 minutes to a percent and have a more reliable rule. This rule, at the listed 76 pace implies a slowing of 6.58%, but a real stud would be slower by over 8%, which is too much of a slow down. A 60:00 guy (especially if not a peak race) could be expected to go as fast as 2:06, which is 10.25% slow down.

Even the 6.58% is conservative because if you use the double-the-distance, increment the time by 6.6% rule you would get a 6.6% going from 10k to 20k (or a HM, similar distance), and then tack on another 6.6%; with compounding, it is 13.6% slower. If you have been doing at least some of your long runs quickly you should be able to do better than this HM rule.
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