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malmo
Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 10:21AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Debutantes Ball

2:08:24 2:06:17 Ryan Hall (24) London 2007
2:09:41 2:08:51 Alberto Salazar (22) New York 1980
2:09:41 2:09:41 Alan Culpepper (30) Chicago 2002
2:11:13 2:11:13 Rudy Chapa (26) New York 1983
2:11:17 2:11:17 Todd Williams (28) Chicago 1997
2:11:35 2:11:35 Dan Browne (27) Twin Cities 2002
2:12:12 2:08:47 Bob Kempainen (25) Twin Cites 1991
2:12:17 2:12:17 Steve Spence (28) Columbus 1990
2:12:27 2:12:27 Fernando Cabada (24) Fukuoka 2006
2:12:35 2:09:15 Meb Keflezighi (27) New York 2002
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2:13:00 2:13:00 Jorge Torres (29) New York 2009
2:13:02 2:11:40 Rod Dehaven Chicago (32) 1998
2:13:07 2:08:59 Greg Meyer(25) Detroit 1980
2:13:21 2:13:21 Steve Ortiz (22) 1981
2:13:24 2:13:05 Mark Coogan (27) Boston 1994
2:13:29 2:12:23 George Malley (27) New York 1982
2:14:01 2:10:00 Dathan Ritzenhein (23) New York 2006
2:14:13 2:14:13 Kyle Baker (26) Chicago 2002
2:14:15 2:14:15 Brad Hauser (25) St Paul 2002
2:14:21 2:14:21 Mark Nenow (30) New York 1988
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2:14:23 2:14:23 John Hunsaker (23) Tempe 1979
2:14:30 2:14:08 Ryan Shay (23) Chicago 2002
2:14:40 2:10:26 Craig Virgin (23) San Diego 1979
2:14:57 2:14:57 Don Johns (26) Duluth 1991
2:15:11 2:15:11 Mike Morgan (26) Chicago 2006
2:15:15 2:14:06 Steve Bolt (25) Rocket City 1980
2:15:16 2:11:32 Paul Cummings (28) St George 1981
2:15:22 2:15:22 Josh Rohatinsky (25) OT 2007
2:15:28 2:11:38 Paul Gompers (19) Rocket City 1983
2:15:28 2:14:56 Nate Jenkins Austin 2006
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2:15:47 2:15:47 Mike McGuire (26) Detroit 1981
2:15:50 2:15:27 Jason Hartmann (25) Chicago 2006
2:15:51 2:11:25 Randy Thomas (24) New York
....
2:17:09 2:08:55 Abdi Abdirahman (27) New York 2004
douglas burke
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 10:34AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
interesting 6 of the 10 did not improve after their debut, though at least chapa only ran one and at least browne and cabada are still competing.
go usa distance
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 10:34AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Awesome run for Torres. It looks like he is going to have a bright marathoning future ahead, Thanks for the list Malmo. It's sad when reading it and seeing Ryan Shay in there. Such a huge loss of a talented runner so soon in life, would've loved to have seen how he would ran with the rest of the American guys today.
huge fat butt
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 10:59AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if you want to update the list:

Luke Watson 2:15:29
(twin cities, 2009)
Whoops!
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 11:05AM - in reply to go usa distance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

go usa distance really wrote:
would've loved to have seen how he would ran
"run"

with the rest of the American guys today.
waiting for my ruca
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 11:07AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
anyone know what Nick Arciniaga's debut marathon was? I want to say it was 2:16 and change at St. George, but i may be mistaken.
t.shea
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 11:38AM - in reply to waiting for my ruca Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

waiting for my ruca wrote:

anyone know what Nick Arciniaga's debut marathon was? I want to say it was 2:16 and change at St. George, but i may be mistaken.



2:16:58 in 2006 at LaSalle Bank Chicago.

I think that was his first one. Great race today for Nick.
excacerbator
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 11:42AM - in reply to waiting for my ruca Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
update: Hartmann ran 2:12:09 in winning TCM
riley stops
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/1/2009 11:55AM - in reply to excacerbator Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

excacerbator wrote:

update: Hartmann ran 2:12:09 in winning TCM


That wasn't Hartmann's debut.
skwilli
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 2:57PM - in reply to huge fat butt Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And a steeplechaser to boot!
dean moriarty
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 3:06PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Great run for Jorge. Weird that he's the third oldest debut on that list.
Running Bear
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 3:32PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've never seen Jorge run before, but I was really impressed with his style from the little of him I was able to see on the NBC broadcast; smooth and relaxed. When running with the lead pack, he just looked comfortable.
excacerbator
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 4:09PM - in reply to riley stops Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was updating his PR from this:

2:15:50 2:15:27 Jason Hartmann (25) Chicago 2006


riley stops wrote:

[quote]excacerbator wrote:

update: Hartmann ran 2:12:09 in winning TCM


That wasn't Hartmann's debut.[/quote]
no one
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 4:44PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo - what was your 1/2 marathon pr?
Ever been to Mammoth
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 4:54PM - in reply to go usa distance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

go usa distance wrote:

It's sad when reading it and seeing Ryan Shay in there. Such a huge loss of a talented runner so soon in life, would've loved to have seen how he would ran with the rest of the American guys today.


Ryan ran his debut in 2002. He died 5 years later. I think we know exactly how much he would develop. This guy has become a much better runner in peoples mind than in reality.
mcgato
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 4:56PM - in reply to no one Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

no one wrote:

malmo - what was your 1/2 marathon pr?

Probably found here. I don't think he ran faster than his AR.
http://www.arrs.net/RecProg/RP_USAR.htm
iPhone needs a net
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 5:02PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

malmo wrote:

Debutantes Ball

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2:12:17 2:12:17 Steve Spence (28) Columbus 1990
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After graduating in 1985 with a degree in business administration, Spence decided to try his luck as a road racer. Asked about his marathon debut at Baltimore that December, he is unable to dredge up a single fond memory. "That was just kind of to say I could run the distance," he explains. "I was on 2:13 pace for 20 miles, then blew up." Spence finished in a painful 2:26 and put marathoning out of his mind, though not for long.
smd
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 5:22PM - in reply to iPhone needs a net Reply | Return to Index | Report Post


...
2:12:17 2:12:17 Steve Spence (28) Columbus 1990
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1988: Jersey City, New Jersey, April 24
132 Qualifiers, 115 Starters, 77 Finishers
Time standard = 2:20:00


1) Mark Conover (CA) 2:12:26 $50,000
2) Ed Eyestone (UT) 2:12:49 $25,000
3) Pete Pfitzinger (MA) 2:13:09 $20,000
4) Paul Gompers (MA) 2:14:20 $15,000
5) Mark Curp (MO) 2:14:40 $10,000
6) Don Norman (PA) 2:15:49 $8,000
7) Bob Hodge (MA) 2:16:56 $6,000
8) Greg Meyer (MA) 2:17:40 $4,500
9) Steve Spence (PA) 2:17:49 $3,000
10) Herb Wills (FL) 2:17:52 $2,000
11) Randy Thomas (MA) 2:18:10 $1,500
12) Chris Prior (OR) 2:18:34 $1,000
13) Ken Judson (PA) 2:18:38 $900
14) Brad Ingram (OH) 2:18:45 $800
15) Bill Weidenbach (WA) 2:19:21 $700
16) Danny Grimes (CA) 2:19:34 $600
17) Paul Pilkington (UT) 2:19:39 $400
18) Tom Ratcliffe (MA) 2:20:22 $300
19) Darrell General (MD) 2:20:31 $200
20) Ron Gee (CA) 2:20:58 $100
rainrunner
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 6:04PM - in reply to smd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Didn't Tom Raunig run 2:13:xx as a debut in the old Nike OTC marathon in 1982?
Mizzoolah
RE: Jorge Torres: 11 fastest American debut 11/3/2009 6:29PM - in reply to rainrunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rainrunner wrote:

Didn't Tom Raunig run 2:13:xx as a debut in the old Nike OTC marathon in 1982?


No. Raunig won the Sports Festival marathon in July, then finished 6th at New York in 2:13:22
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