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hssnr
swimming or running in college? 11/1/2009 6:16AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am currently a high school senior deciding on if i should run or swim in college. I am mostly looking at D3 schools and have personal best of 16:22 for 5k and 10:10 for 3200. I also have personal best of 4:48 for 500yard freestyle and 17:05 for 1650 freestyle. I was wondering if it looks like i am better at one of the the sports than the other? or if anyone has had more fun in college doing one of the two sports over the other? Any sport of advice would be great. I am just unsure of which sport i should try to do in college since i know i will not be able to do both sports.
run it
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/1/2009 6:29AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Killer times for both running and swimming. I was in the same boat as you are but with a 16:35 5k and a 4:46 500. I picked running and here is why. I was burned out of swimming. Running is a much more social sport and it's a lot more enjoyable. A 16:22 5k is much easier to improve than a 4:48 500. The camaraderie that you will experience on a college cross team is unparalleled to any other sport. With those times you can probably get onto some junior national triathlon training team, depending on you bike skills. Also keep in mind that your main goal for going to school is to do that, go to school. As a member of the swim team, you will be spending a heck of a lot more time away from the books then you would if you were on the cross team. I say go to school, learn as much as you can, and run.
swimmer
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 5:58AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Swim in college. College running isnt that much fun.
Hmm!
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 8:28AM - in reply to swimmer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Swim college; run afterwards.
K8
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 8:42AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I have no concept of what swimming times mean, but what an earlier commenter said is definitely true - college swim teams spend much, much more time at practice than do track/XC teams. At my (DI) school, it was about 3 hrs a day for track/XC versus close to 6 hrs for the swim team. (And yes, I know that violates some NCAA rules on maximum weekly hours of practice, but they absolutely did it anyway.)

It's something important to consider as you make this decision. Good luck!
runit2
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 9:11AM - in reply to K8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Run in college swimming does take up way to much time and they have to practice over winter semester at most colleges which just sucks.
do tris eventually
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 9:31AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you get your running time down and maintain your swim time, you could be a good triathlete. Am I right? So do running and maybe go somewhere with a triathlon club.
Ravenmaniac
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 10:04AM - in reply to do tris eventually Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

do tris eventually wrote:

If you get your running time down and maintain your swim time, you could be a good triathlete. Am I right? So do running and maybe go somewhere with a triathlon club.


It is much easier to get the running time down without running for a college team. In fact, not being subjected to the injury factory of college running might even help him get faster at running. You can still train for running solo at a reasonably high level. However, maintaining that level of swimming is nearly impossible without a quality team setting. Swimming with a triathlon club would do no good because most triathletes can't swim.
mermaid
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 11:43AM - in reply to Ravenmaniac Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why don't you wait and see which sport will get you more money in college? Has anyone offered yet?
ghost
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 12:50PM - in reply to mermaid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You don't need 3 hours per day to reach class in running.

1.5 hours per day is more than enough, composed of morning run (30") and afternoon workout which should not go over 1 hour in college.

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K8
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 12:56PM - in reply to ghost Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Obviously I didn't mean we were actually running for 3 hours a day, but between doubles, weight lifting, stretching, team meetings, traveling to workouts and races, etc. it all added up to about 3 daily hours of time "at practice", time which could not be used for school work or your social life.

None of which is terribly relevant to the fact that college swimmers spend a lot more time than college runners doing all of the various things that constitute "practice."
dont see the job
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 1:02PM - in reply to ghost Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ghost, you keep posting that Saudi link but when I click it and try to look for teaching jobs I don't really see any. Is there a better link? I think it was the same thing for those South Korea teaching jobs.
lease
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/2/2009 1:34PM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In my experience, it should be possible (at least at some schools) to do both the running and the swimming. Obviously, you would need to have cooperative coaches, because cross season extends well after the beginning of swim training, but I think you might be able to find such coaches at the D3 shools you're looking at (and in terms of running times, at least, I'd say D3 is your best bet).

During your summer buildup for xc, I'd say there's certainly nothing wrong with doing a portion of your general aerobic work as swimming. As the summer progressed, the proportion of your training that was running would probably increase; but you'd still want to retain a modicum of swimming, if only to stay in touch with your stroke skills.

In the fall, you'd want to do the full team running workouts. But that's not to say that you couldn't do a brief morning swim session (given that most D3 schools don't do team double workouts), which could actually loosen you up for your afternoon running; or you could jump in the pool for a few minutes *after* your PM running, which could help your recovery for the next day. Depending on your team's training situation, your Sunday long run might end up all running, followed by some easy swim; or even half run/half swim, or all swim for all I know. In the last few weeks of cross, your swimming would probably be more limited, and almost entirely for recovery, not for conditioning.

Still, if you kept in touch with your strokes throughout xc it should be possible to move (late) into swimming, once cross is over, and get up to normal workouts pretty quickly, probably within a week or two. Then during the swim season you could keep a lot of your running conditioning if you put in one, maybe two hours of running per week--again, probably as morning sessions. Once or twice a week, you'd want the running to include some turnover work (strides or whatever). Again, the concept is to stay in touch with your *skill* of efficent fast movement.

Collegiate swimming extends to, what, mid-March if you make NCAAs? It should still be possible to do outdoor track, if you have a cooperative coach. You might not be able to handle the team's full running workouts, in terms of volume--or you might--but your aerobic conditioning should be at a high level, and your running skill should still be there. Try steeplechase--seriously, not just because of the water jump!--because your strength and flexibility from swimming might help you there.

I've had students at the D3 level who were both successful runners and swimmers, so I know it can work--again, depending on the coaches involved. I've heard the argument that you should concentrate on swimming in college, because "you'll be able to run for the rest of your life, but won't be able to swim once you get out of school"--but that hasn't been my experience. People who *want* to stay with swimming are generally able to find a post-collegiate club program that allows them to do so.

And yes, triathlon may be in your future. In fact, I had a cross-country guy who had a fairly substantial triathlon season during the early- and mid-summer months, then gradually moved his emphasis to running as the xc season approached. He ended up our MVP that year!
notfastenough
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/3/2009 6:57AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
your really not fast enough to get a scholarship in either sport, you should do which ever sport you think you will have more fun doing. Personally i would run. Those times you got would put you in the middle of the pack at most division three schools, so its not like you will be a star at any school. Doing both sports would be really hard since the seasons overlap and you prolly wont be the best at one of the sports.
would you rather...
RE: swimming or running in college? 11/3/2009 8:25AM - in reply to hssnr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Spend all of your time staring at the bottom of a pool or chatting with your teammates out on beautiful trails?

I know which I'd choose.
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