I ran a the above time for a half when i was 14 (8th grade), that's 6:35 pace. I did so off very little endurance training, mostly track training as i ran the 1600, and about 35-50 mpw. Assuming training goes well, what should I be able to run in 5k xc by the time i'm a senior in high school?
My son ran a similar time at a similar age and ran 15:47 his senior year on a relatively flat fast XC course.
Sorry dude there is noway to tell. Cross is a different sport as every course varies ( road, grass, dirt,etc...)
my best guess is that barring injury and steady improvement low 15's on a semi-fast course is possible. I will always remember what a famous high school runner told me: "the worst word in running is potential" because you never know if you will live up to it.
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Sorry dude there is noway to tell. Cross is a different sport as every course varies ( road, grass, dirt,etc...)
my best guess is that barring injury and steady improvement low 15's on a semi-fast course is possible. I will always remember what a famous high school runner told me: "the worst word in running is potential" because you never know if you will live up to it.
i understand that, just looking for rough estimates you know. thanks both of you for your opinions.
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eh low 15's, MAYBE... with hard training and consistency
so many things factor in.. one thing is whether or not you grow much from the time you ran 1:26 to your senior year. some runners fail to progress in high school simply because they were very physically mature in middle school.
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You have that right there Im definatly not physicaly mature all the way yet and the kids that were up at the top in the thumb XC championships looked like that kids at the front of the varcity race Ill. But once I am in high school Ill win the foot locker XC championships and they'll be home watching.
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so many things factor in.. one thing is whether or not you grow much from the time you ran 1:26 to your senior year. some runners fail to progress in high school simply because they were very physically mature in middle school.
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Quit bumping - like they said you CANNOT know! I'd say somewhere from 14:30-17:30.
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1:26 isn\'t bad for 14, but it is impossible to say where you\'ll be in 3 years and change. There are a lot of things that can interrupt your progression.
As you mature, your body will go through continuous changes until you hit 18-20. I have friends who didn\'t grow at all in HS, but picked up 6 inches in their first year of college. Big growth spurts like that really can hinder performance.
You could also find that you\'re injury prone at higher mileages. Higher mileage isn\'t an absolute must, but if you want to be winning FLXC (or NXN, which will probably have wiped out FL by the time you\'re a senior) you\'re going to have to run some higher mileage. 70mpw+, more than likely; some people thrive on it, some people just break down.
Last is motivation, Younger guys tend to be very flighty in their interests. Do you really have the right mental makeup to log consistent miles, to know when to push and when to hold back? Do you have a solid coach who can help get you there, i.e. has done it before? Are you patient enough to learn how to train optimally? A lot of things can change in a few years.
My advice would be to keep your nose to the grindstone and have stepping-stone goals to get to your ultimate destination. Start out trying to be the top guy on your team, then aim for tops in your league, then state, region, and eventually in the nation. If you have what it takes to be a champ and your smart, patient, and diligent, then you\'ll get there. If not, well... you\'ll be like the 99.9999% of the rest of XC runners whose lips touch times and titles that their feet cannot.
To be frank... anyone who calls 13.1 miles a "half-mary" deserves to be shot.
Do us all a favour, hang up your shoes and stop bumping this ridiculous thread.
I ran 1:21 at 14 years old. I was in the 15:20's by my senior year. Hindsight being what it is, 13 miles is too far for a 14 year old to be racing. Just my 2 cents.
Dont focus on the half marathon, maybe go out and run a few to make your long runs more interesting but I would not focus on them. 86 minutes is fairly good but not very indicative of your talent level. What can you run for an 800m, a mile or a 3k at this stage would really tell us how much raw talent you have.
Also learn to really be effective in your quality sessions and do interesting sessions like fartlek, mixed repeats etc. Most of the top guys were doing lower mileage higher quality when they were younger and then as they got older added volume. As a top miler you will need to hit +-80 miles a week so 50 as a 14 year old is already pretty high.
Also as one poster pointed out above your body will also change and this could be a bad or a good thing -just depends on good old genetics.
Keep working at it and above all enjoy it..
I know a girl who ran 1:26 at age 12. She had a solid high school career - probably around 18:00 for 5k.