NIRCA Nationals '09 discussion!

im betting the results will be very similar to last year as far as top teams go. central michigan needs to be added into the girls race though.

WTC > any other track club.

word.

Bruce Kaczmarek for the alumni race win!

I'll make my predictions though we'll know a lot more after Regionals.

Men Individual Contenders (top 5ish)

Andrew Coates- UM Dearborn (former 8:20 3K guy from Canada)

Moses Peteres- UM Ann Arbor (2:26 marathoner)

Wallace Cambell- Clemson (25:08 for 8K this season)

Limoni+Garbe- UW (top 5 returners from last year)

Others?

Team Predictions Men-

1. Wisconsin- They look like the heavy heavy favorites after averaging 26:04 for their top 5 this past weekend.

2. Oregon- They seem to have better depth than the others though we don't have any head to head comparisons.

3. Illinois- They ran well in Chicago at Lakefront with top 3 all around 27:00.

4. UMich- Always a contender with great depth though no clear top 5.

5. Clemson- Seem to be strong this year and beat UNC and others recently.

Woman Individual Contenders (top 5ish)

Rachel Krasich- Duke

Rachel White- UM Ann Arbor

Alicia Grove - UVA

Erika Utter- Purdue

Kristen Morhor- Oregon

Woman's Teams-

1. UO

2. Michigan

3. Duke

4. CMU

5. Penn State

asdasdasd wrote:

I'll make my predictions though we'll know a lot more after Regionals.

Don't expect to learn anything from the Midwest Regional (at least not relative to the others). Wisconsin's course is obscenely hilly, plus the weather's looking pretty wet, so times are going to be very slow...

My thoughts:

Coates and Cambell have to be two of the favorites given their performances.

Peters is a 2:26 Marathoner? Where has that been this season? If he's really that good a marathoner he should be running 25:00, not 27:00.

Limoni and Garbe are certainly on the list, but will likely have to run 30 second PRs to win.

Before two weekends ago I would have put Aaron Silver of Illinois on this list, given a sub 4:00 1500 and (I think) a sub 15:00 5k during track, but it appears he's been injured and his debut at Hulman did not look too good. Maybe it was just one bad race, and with a few more weeks of training he can get up in that top tier.

Team

1) Wisconsin - Would be crazy not to pick them. Although, note that Zach Bruns, who was number 3 for them this weekend is no longer a student. Thus the average for their top 5 NIRCA eligible was 26:15 (still a head above the rest)

I'm not brave enough to call the rest of it. I think UConn and Penn State certainly have a chance to slide into that top 5, but I think the order 2-5 will depend in large part on who has a good day on the 14th.

Don't follow the women as much, but look for Wisconsin to surprise as they'll likely be running a full strength squad at Nationals for the first time in perhaps ever.

I'm jacked to WATCH regionals. I just hope they have a live video feed so I can watch nationals as well.

After seeing the current rankings, they look alright. It seems that a couple voters are giving Illinois props for beating WI at Loyola, since they got a couple first place votes. However, UW's 1-2-3 didn't run there.

UW does have to prove it on the course against other NIRCA teams though. I suppose it will be settled at POPE FARM, and then again at MICHIGAN.

Midwest Regionals predictions:

It will be cold

It will be muddy

It will be hilly

No one will run under 5:30 pace

There will be blood

All I care about is the after party

Let these silly clubs fight it out

Hope the men have speed goggles :)

I think at least 80 people are going sub 5:30 pace

bitch

are there even 80 people in the race?

you kidding me?

this is nirca for real dawg

WTC FTW

I heard from the club VP there were 180 people signed up (~130 guys, ~50 girls) not counting WTC members...which I'm sure will make up another solid 30-40.

I'll be interested to see how the race turns out..that course is effing ridiculous, and I hear the weather isn't supposed to be very nice either...then again, if you're a strong hill runner [and I mean...you love hills more than anything else in the world...] it could be a fun day. The course also runs past a pasture of sheep which always kind of made me laugh..

Good luck to all who are racing! Especially the WTC crew :)

Any results from the regional meets today??

I did the timing. The results should be on the web soon though.

Men

1. WTC (51)

2. Illinois (57)

3. Michigan

Women

1. WTC

2. Minnesota

3. Purdue (6th tiebreaker wins the trophy)

3. Michigan

Peters won the mens race, second was Garbe of WI.

Womens race was won by a Michigan woman.

Course held up to 3 days of rain fairly well, and we had great weather. Course was VERY challenging though. My prediction was off, as 2 men broke 5:30 pace for the 7.83K race.

Official Results from the Midwest Regional

Note: Men's race was 7.83k, and women's was 5.98k

Absolutely awesome race from the Illinois men, as they nearly knocked us off. We had great depth today though, which should be more apparent when you can see the full results go up on clubrunning.org. I'm hoping that'll be tonight or tomorrow.

Good team performances from both the Wisco and Minnesota women. Don't think either of those teams were expecting to place. Of course, Michigan was missing at least Rachel White, and I'd presume more, cause at full strength they really should be a head above Wisco and MN.

Results below:

Men's Team

1. 51 Wisconsin Track Club ( 27:30 2:17:30)

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1 2 Ben Garbe JR 26:36

2 8 Isaac Newman FR 27:25

3 11 John Prusynski SO 27:43

4 12 Bryan Barker JR 27:45

5 18 Ben Carr JR 28:01

6 ( 19) Kyle Hall JR 28:05

7 ( 21) River Karl SO 28:07

2. 57 University of Illinois ( 27:34 2:17:47)

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1 4 Mike Spillone JR 26:59

2 5 Andrew Jacobi JR 27:05

3 9 Justin Smith JR 27:26

4 15 Dan Luis SR 27:56

5 24 Aaron Silver SO 28:21

6 ( 32) Mike Frigo SO 28:58

7 ( 33) Todd Teren SR 28:59

3. 71 Michigan Running Club ( 27:35 2:17:54)

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1 1 Nathan'moses' Peters JR 26:21

2 3 Max Hock JR 26:47

3 16 Alex Prasad JR 27:58

4 25 Joshua Lumley SO 28:23

5 26 Charlie Mouch JR 28:25

6 ( 30) Ian Prochaska FR 28:50

7 ( 31) Zach Prochaska FR 28:51

Women's Team

1. 61 Wisconsin Track Club ( 26:04 2:10:18)

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1 3 Sarah McCall SO 25:17

2 4 Jade Schmitt JR 25:20

3 16 Lindsey Carlson SR 26:21

4 17 Nicole Kornder GR 26:28

5 21 Laura Platner SO 26:52

6 ( 23) Lauren Moore SO 27:02

7 ( 33) Taylor Heinselman SO 27:38

2. 92 University of Minnesota ( 26:28 2:12:20)

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1 7 Elizabeth Zupanc SR 25:22

2 9 Candice Todryk FR 25:48

3 10 Molly Watkins FR 25:52

4 20 Erin Bennett JR 26:46

5 46 Cassandra Mironczuk FR 28:32

3. 120 Purdue University ( 26:53 2:14:23)

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1 2 Erika Utter JR 24:50

2 19 Jillian Yanos SO 26:41

3 26 Katie Micon FR 27:10

4 34 Brittany Lump SR 27:42

5 39 Lisa Strueh SO 28:00

6 ( 42) Destiny Baccino SR 28:24

7 ( 49) Jenna Lee FR 28:47

3. 120 Michigan Running Club ( 26:51 2:14:13)

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1 1 Sarah Brewer SR 24:35

2 12 Mollie Pozolo 26:00

3 30 Melissa Hoffman JR 27:32

4 32 Jane Harness FR 27:37

5 45 Elise Carolan SO 28:29

6 ( 47) Chrissie Costakis SO 28:36

7 ( 53) Alaina Vouaux FR 28:58

Men's Top 15 Individuals

Place TmPl Bib Name Yr Team Time Pace

1 1 290 Nathan'moses' Peters JR Michigan RC 26:20.9 5:26

2 2 401 Ben Garbe JR Wisco TC 26:35.5 5:28

3 3 285 Max Hock JR Michigan RC 26:46.1 5:31

4 4 347 Mike Spillone JR Illinois 26:58.2 5:33

5 5 337 Andrew Jacobi JR Illinois 27:04.5 5:34

6 6 377 Colin Zauner SO Minnesota 27:14.3 5:36

7 7 255 Luke Demmell Iowa State 27:20.6 5:38

8 8 414 Isaac Newman FR Wisco TC 27:24.7 5:39

9 9 346 Justin Smith JR Illinois 27:25.5 5:39

10 10 369 Steele Lorenz SR Minnesota 27:41.3 5:42

11 11 417 John Prusynski SO Wisco TC 27:42.6 5:42

12 12 396 Bryan Barker JR Wisco TC 27:44.7 5:43

13 13 253 Ryan Wells FR Indiana 27:50.6 5:44

14 14 228 Alex Donaghy SR Central Michigan 27:51.7 5:44

15 15 341 Dan Luis SR Illinois 27:55.8 5:45

Women's Top 15 Individuals

Place TmPl Bib Name Yr Team Time Pace

1 1 139 Sarah Brewer SR Michigan RC 24:34.5 6:37

2 171 Melissa Helton FR Cincinnati 24:41.2 6:39

3 2 169 Erika Utter JR Purdue 24:49.8 6:41

4 3 213 Sarah McCall SO Wisco TC 25:17.0 6:49

5 4 217 Jade Schmitt JR Wisco TC 25:19.3 6:49

6 5 192 Annie Bellantone JR Illinois 25:19.7 6:49

7 6 190 Eden Slater SO Mizzou 25:21.1 6:50

8 7 180 Elizabeth Zupanc SR Minnesota 25:21.6 6:50

9 8 107 Lacey Kreft SR Central Michigan 25:30.7 6:52

10 9 184 Candice Todryk FR Minnesota 25:47.1 6:57

11 10 185 Molly Watkins FR Minnesota 25:51.3 6:58

12 11 115 Kristen Schneider FR Illinois State 25:52.6 6:58

13 12 148 Mollie Pozolo Michigan RC 26:00.0 7:00

14 13 424 Heather Bartos SO Illinois State 26:02.5 7:01

15 14 101 Madeline Goheen SO Ball State 26:09.0 7:03

WTC will be even tougher at Nationals. Barker will run better and Limoni and Berg will factor or push the rest

i miss the wtc wrote:

I heard from the club VP there were 180 people signed up (~130 guys, ~50 girls) not counting WTC members

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the final numbers were something like 175 men, and 105 women

Midwest results:

http://www.clubrunning.org/info.php?action=fullnews&id=76

Northeast results:

http://thelastmileracing.com/results/results2009/09nerc.html

Barker Sucks... washed up

Hasn't performed since that 6k

Plus he wore sleeves.... loser

I'll argue Penn State's case a bit. I think that their guys should be top 5, they posted some solid times this past weekend. I see the Penn State women in contention for the win with Oregon. They have a great front runner and then a pretty tight pack, and they look like they'll match up well with UO.