Usain Bolt, Tyson Gay, Asafa Powell, Carmelita Jeter, Shelly Ann-Fraser, Kerron Stewart- clean or not?

I don't think keeping the same physical appearence means much.

Athletes that use drugs and have very defined muscles look that way beacause they like to work on that as well as their speed.

They can run just as fast without perfectly ripped pecs and bisceps.

Being lean and strong is helpful but having serious definition is about as useful as piano lessons when it comes to running fast.

Point is, those that don't looked ripped may still be on drugs. Those that are ripped are likely on drugs as that helps with definition.

So - yes, they all are likely on drugs as are at least a dozen or hundred others that you have not named.

(maybe even an ethiopian or two - gasp!)

get a life dude!!

Bolt is clean until proven otherwise. I legitimately think he is just a freak of nature. One of those that only comes around once in a blue moon. We may never see another like him and I really do think he is clean.

Tyson Gay is clean. End of story.

As for the guy who claims Ritz is doping. Asking why he hasnt raced since his record is the most retarded statement I have heard in a long time. Do you know anything about distance running? Maybe he hasnt raced since then because its the end of the season and its time to take a rest after a lot of hard training and get back to the base work. That generally is what people do. Ritz ran a spring marathon and then went straight to working hard for track season, he's tired. And did you not see the video where he was on his way to get tested right after his AR race?

I think the lists on this thread are pretty close to accurate. I'd be highly suspicious of Jeter, not at all suspicious of Gay, and the rest fall in-between. I don't actually suspect Bolt. I'm wondering about the Jamaican women.

not a scientist wrote:

Jeter

Stewart

Fraser

Powell

Bolt

Gay

I switched Powell and Bolt. Powell is much bigger than Bolt. Gay looks really big as well and I'd have him much higher on the list if he wasn't in the special USOC drug testing program. Thus 9.71 clean makes me reassess.

I had Powell as more likely to be clean then Bolt simply because he's been around running super fast times a lot longer and probably been tested more, with not so much as a stimulant to his name. You're right that Gay wins only because of project believe.

As many have pointed out before, Bolt wasnt exactly a slouch before he ran 9.69 last year. He was the WJR holder at 200 and 400, not to mention already had a world medal before Bejing. It was just a matter of learning how to get his freakishly talented body to work with him and when he did, we got the Bolt we know now. So his big improvements are not exactly cause to say he is dirty. Jeter on the other hand...shes about as clean as an east LA prostitute.

Bolt's lifetime best for 400m is slower than Obea Moore ran in hich school, never mind Steve Lewis' WJR.

unrated wrote:

As many have pointed out before, Bolt wasnt exactly a slouch before he ran 9.69 last year. He was the WJR holder at 200 and 400, not to mention already had a world medal before Bejing. It was just a matter of learning how to get his freakishly talented body to work with him and when he did, we got the Bolt we know now. So his big improvements are not exactly cause to say he is dirty. Jeter on the other hand...shes about as clean as an east LA prostitute.

if you look at their progress over the years or other parameters there is absolutely nothing that indicates doping.

They are just incredibly genetically talented and combined

with very hard training they excel. They are all role models

and we should acknowledge what one can accomplish by hard work.

sorry, I dont know why I had it in my head that he had that record.

It simply normal progression. In the 80's guys were running 9.86, today a 9.86 is still a great time. Take the freak out of it and it's a 9.7ish. These guys should be runing faster than they were 20 years ago. Bolt's thing is that 6-5 stride.

I think Bolt is the greatest sprinter of all time. But, I think that he is using PEDs, same as Powell and Gay.

What's kind of funny to me is seeing pictures of Powell and Gay running the second and third fastest times ever with ragged form, tension, etc.. or Bolt setting a world record while shutting down before the line. That was kind of what FloJo was like during that brief period when she ran away from everyone and set world records without really trying.

The women are obviously using. Groups of women don't get into the top ten of all time without using because nearly all the top times were run in the steroid era of the 80's.

If a 30 year old woman running the second best sea level time in history doesn't strike you as odd, all I can say is pleasant dreams.

Bob Hayes could run a 10.06 on a dirt track over 40 years ago. 40 years before him (or 1944) guys were running 10.2 or 10.44 electro. At the 1904 Olympics..11.24. Simple progresion is all we are seeing.

aint no humongus thang wrote:

That was kind of what FloJo was like during that brief period when she ran away from everyone and set world records without really trying.

The reason FloJo ran away from everyone and set a world record without trying is because it was in a quarter-final and it was f***ing windy. I can't believe it was ever ratified. Lame.

People forger with Bolt's WR run that it wasn't just about him. It was also the fastest overall 100m race of all time with the best timings for 1st-5th places and for 7th place I believe.

I believe Gay is using. No real proof, I just believe he is.

I don't suspect him as strongly as Jeter but more than I suspect Bolt and Powell (and I think there is a good likelihood they are using too).

Tyson Gay, Carmelita Jeter, and Asafa Powell should be commneded on being clean athletes who courageously face tainted athletes anytime anywhere!

There is no reason to suspect any of these athletes anymore than Ritz, Webb, Teg and Hall... or more importantly... Willard, Wurth-Thomas, Vessey....

tooshort wrote:

Project Clean?

You think project clean is a never ending program..lol

How stupid can you be? The whole point of the program is to give testers a fingerprint to make it easier for testers to detect any changes in his system that drugs could cause.

Her name will be Carmelita. Che(a)ter

Carmelita Jeter is so beautiful and an amazing athlete, I really hope she breaks the 100m WR and grab Gold at the 2012 Olympics.