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Yes. Totally.
Schumacher is the greatest Formula One driver of all-time
Both are overrated.
My HS coach was a member of AW in the early 80's and he ran his entire career for Nike. He thinks that Nike athletes are more likely to experiment with drugs because Nike will defend (not cover up) their athletes in court and in the public opinion.
As a former teammate of Coach Salazar he said that he would cheat 100% of the time if he knew he wouldn't get caught and that he would justify it by saying that everyone else is doing it.
As a real former teammate of Alberto's I can tell you for a fact that Alberto would never cheat.
He's been religious, and ethical, from day one. He may not have been the friendliest, most socially adept dude in college, post college -- but he is so square and straight and narrow, it is laughable that you childish liars try and float this crap all the time.
And, regarding Nike, the opposite is true, the PR hit that Nike would take if they were ever connected to doping or cheating would result in a major governmental investigation, and likely prohibitively major corporate fines and penalties worldwide.
I know your type will continue to post flat out lies, anonymously, here.
But, those of us really in the know, who have really been on the inside, know that they are just immature, jealous lies.
Additionally, Phil Knight may be a strange looking blond dude with a pock-marked face, but he would corporately kick anyone's ass out the door that involved Nike with PEDS, or anything illegal.
Yes, he is also very competitive, but he is also a sportsman. The fact that Nike, once a small running shoe company...became the most successful sporting goods company in the world - their size and profile, and support of running... Is what makes some of you can't-get-a-life types so jealous and angry...that you post total lies like this.
Additionally, the technique you used is a known classic of swindlers, sociopaths, liars, and obvious manipulators.
Trying to add credibility to an non-credible lie by reporting second hand what someone else supposedly said.
But let's for the sake of argument say that your coach did run with Salazar.
To then tell his young athletes what you say he said, only proves that your coach is a bitter, developmentally retarded, and immature adult.
And you are simple a childish fool to listen to such a sad excuse for an adult.
Assuming your coach did say these things, the both of you need years of therapy, because you are a good way towards sociopathic behavior -- one of the key indicators of which is the willingness to lie about others -- with complete disregard for the harmful consequences it might have on another.
Seriously, go tell your parents what you have just done on the internet, so they can take another shot at teaching you right from wrong.
Mr. Logic,
I appreciate your post and your arguments. If you had not posted anonymously, just as the person you replied to, I would give you a 10/10.
I'd got with Salazar... been there, done that. I have never heard a Schumacher athlete compliment Jerry about his approach to the mental side of racing. Schumacher just seems to have a sound program, while Salazar has the complete package.
Great Lord of Obviousness wrote:
If you had not posted anonymously, just as the person you replied to, I would give you a 10/10.
Agreed. Anyone posting with the sneering sanctimonious tone of Mr. Logic--berating somebody for posting anonymously and calling somebody he's never met a sociopath--had better include his damn name.
I have no more reason to believe Mr. Logic is a "real" former Salazar teammate than I do the kid's coach is.
And to the kid: you don't need therapy. Your coach isn't the first to speculate about the limits of Salazar's drive.
Wasn't Alberto coaching Slaney when her test ratios were out of the roof?
Great Lord of Obviousness wrote:
Mr. Logic,
I appreciate your post and your arguments. If you had not posted anonymously, just as the person you replied to, I would give you a 10/10.
Seriously, have you not noted how many times people have stated that they are not going to use their real names due to the nature of this board.
Listen, if you read this board regularly, you KNOW there is at least one former teammate here who posts regularly, he just knows too much, and his predictions and commentary end up matching watch comes out in Salazar and Duck interviews.
That poster just KNOWS too much about Salazar, Oregon and Nike, and gets it right consistently.
And that dude is me.
The really smart people see past the trolls and children here and know that there is someone who consistently posts answers, that are later reflected perfectly by facts as they emerge in articles on Oregonlive.com and the Registergaurd website, as well as interviews on Runnerspace, flo track, and articles in RW etc.
Further, there are two people on this board who know who I am, and we have all agreed behind the scenes that there is no merit to us revealing our real life names. We are posting the truth, that can be verified in the public record. We are not posting slanderous statements, or bad faith, jealous, immature rumors.
Ergo, if you are going to post slander and lies that have never been proven...then man up and name up.
Lastly, if you really appreciate what I have written, know that for about a 100 bucks anyone can pay some slimeball web service to track down and give you the home address, phone number etc., of just about any citizen in the USA.
Based on the behavior on this board...no way, no how.
And notice how you posted without using your real name.
Jimmy Olson wrote:
Great Lord of Obviousness wrote:If you had not posted anonymously, just as the person you replied to, I would give you a 10/10.
Agreed. Anyone posting with the sneering sanctimonious tone of Mr. Logic--berating somebody for posting anonymously and calling somebody he's never met a sociopath--had better include his damn name.
I have no more reason to believe Mr. Logic is a "real" former Salazar teammate than I do the kid's coach is.
And to the kid: you don't need therapy. Your coach isn't the first to speculate about the limits of Salazar's drive.
You are an idiot. OBviousness posted anonymously.
Almost Everyone Post Anonymously Here, Including You, and for good reason.
Sociopathic behavior, I bet you don't even know the laundry list of behaviors of sociopaths. I bet you didn't even google the term. I gave you an accurate, intelligent description of some sociopathic behaviors. The posters behavior fits. Perfectly.
There are a handful of sociopaths on this website - go do some reading and study.
The kid is lying about his coach, to try and give credibility to his own delusions and hate. First, I
doubt his coach is what he says he is.
The kid needs therapy, period.
If you defend him, in the least you are not intelligent, and at most you are him, or a fellow internet sociopath.
Can you link us to some threads where you have got things 100 percent correct.
Wait I don't mean 100 percent correct. Just link us to some threads where you have shown you know too much about Salazar etc. If you're going to claim it give evidence.
you guys need to drop it. If you knew a shortcut way to win and everyone else was taking that route, wouldn't you want to do it as well? Everyone is very narrow minded and has been conditioned to believe that we are losers because we are correct in not using PED's. The next time you are sick, or have a headache, just suffer and take no medicine. To those who are able to read into this statement and understand it, then you are able to see things clearly.
Mr. Logic;
The negativity and false accusations are ruining letsrun, so in that regard I am completely in your corner. Outside the questionable use of thyroid medication, there hasn't been any proof of wrong doing from the Salazar camp. Therefore, folks should enjoy his athletes accomplishments, it's nice to have Americans competing so well on a world stage.
Having said that, I think you need anger management counseling.
To get back on the subject. I personally know Jerry very well, and I think that if I had to choose today, i'd take Jerry. Where there is smoke, there is fire and since I first started running people have talked about Salazar being shady. I myself have no proof but wouldn't want that shadow over my career even if it wasn't true. I do know that Jerry would never allow, or push any kind of cheating...hence my decision.
Logic and Clear Thinking wrote:
Sociopathic behavior, I bet you don't even know the laundry list of behaviors of sociopaths. I bet you didn't even google the term. I gave you an accurate, intelligent description of some sociopathic behaviors. The posters behavior fits. Perfectly.
There are a handful of sociopaths on this website - go do some reading and study.
If you defend him, in the least you are not intelligent, and at most you are him, or a fellow internet sociopath.
I'll make you a deal. I'll google "sociopath;" you google "bombastic, irritating blowhard" and "ridiculous, absurd name-calling." I'll even google "not intelligent" if you google "not as smart as I think I am."
Gotta go--Sunday morning is when I like to set cats on fire.
Logic and Clear Thinking wrote:
As a real former teammate of Alberto's I can tell you for a fact that Alberto would never cheat.
He's been religious, and ethical, from day one. He may not have been the friendliest, most socially adept dude in college, post college -- but he is so square and straight and narrow, it is laughable that you childish liars try and float this crap all the time.
Your argument does nothing to convince me.
I have have nothing against Salazar, admired him as a runner and now as a coach, how he is helping many young people to run faster.
Your post, however, raises a lot of red flags and makes me question, even hate him. Maybe that's why people hate him? I don't, but I'm saying that your post makes me feel that way.
No, I am not going to search through months of threads and posts for you.I'll give you one factoid though, I posted that Rupp's parents had funded his college and Olympic running career, (not Salazar or Nike), insuring that Rupp was in full compliance of NCAA rules.
Kiprop fan. wrote:
Kiprop fan. wrote:Can you link us to some threads where you have got things 100 percent correct.
Wait I don't mean 100 percent correct. Just link us to some threads where you have shown you know too much about Salazar etc. If you're going to claim it give evidence.