Running Like Fam. This Is No Joke.

coward. you are afraid to get beat so you beat yourself. you are not running like fam. fam believes he can win by running up front. whether it works for him or not is debatable. run your race.

Agreed. Fam pushes the limit in order to outrun and outgut the opponents, not to play games with them.

Do it, but slow down a bit in the middle of the race and then surge with 1k to go.

Well damn. But this would be like a 2 mile all out run and then I'm still going to try to go as fast as possible.

When Daniels was asked about why Fam leads races. Daniels said..

"Good idea to go into every race with a goal in mind (could be what you eat before, your warm-up, your actual race tactic, etc.) and if you have a poor race, but accomplish your goal, that's good. There are lots of goals besides running a PR or winning a race (both of these are good goals also, but not necessarily the only ones to have)"

My goal is to lead as long as possible.

That is a dumb goal. Why don't you just try to stay with the guy as long as you possibly can, you'll actually get pulled to a fast time. Leading doesn't mean shit if you don't win.

Running doesn't mean shit unless you win. I don't care about my time in a XC race anyways. I know I can't beat the guy so why be a pansy and draft. I'm trying to make myself tough. When the important races roll around, I'll draft and stuff. Right now its just about running.

ticktock wrote:

That is a dumb goal. Why don't you just try to stay with the guy as long as you possibly can, you'll actually get pulled to a fast time. Leading doesn't mean shit if you don't win.

unless you've never tried this tactic i would not suggest it. if you're just experimenting with race tactics for the first time then go for it. you will not improve if you do this sort of thing throughout the season.im gonna guess that you do this relatively often. but that's just a hunch.

that's just not how things work. you need to be in the race to show your toughness. you will not be in the race if your not fit enough. you will not magically jump from 1620 to 1530 unless you make progress with your time/fitness throughout the season. be patient.

bob d. wrote:

unless you've never tried this tactic i would not suggest it. if you're just experimenting with race tactics for the first time then go for it. you will not improve if you do this sort of thing throughout the season.im gonna guess that you do this relatively often. but that's just a hunch.

No. I never lead races. I usually always draft people. But, you're right, this is really just an experiment.

Ian Edwards, is that You?

Don't associate me with that slow ass idiot.

just some 17 year old wrote:

Ok. Here's the scenerio. I'm in about 16:20 shape. My opponent is in like 15:30 shape. We have a 5k cross country race coming up soon. I know I'm not going to beat him. But I thought it might be a little fun to take the lead at the beginning and just hold the lead as long as possible. I'm talking about giving it all I got to stay in the lead, sprinting in the middle of the race if I have too.

Good idea? I'm not worried about other people beating me in this race because its low-key.

Some jackass did this in a race against me once. I waxed him. He looked like a tool.

Don't run like a douche.

just some 17 year old wrote:Don't associate me with that slow ass idiot.

Hey, dude, take it from an elder who ran in college. D2 even. That's, like, the real McCoy NCAA and shi*. Not like fu*king NAIA or some lame club team.

If your rival is about 30 seconds faster your only hope is to cheat. He has to have a bad race. Like, throwing up bad. I suggest you j*rk off in his food the morning before. Everyone here knows that you're g*y so you obviously won't mind.

Go for it champ! No need to thank me.

Run quite hard from the start, and make sure he's about 5-10 meters behind you. Throw down some 50 meter surges every half a mile or so, but let him slowly come back to you after your surges are done.

Now here's where the fun begins. When you're about halfway through the race, sprint as hard as you can until he's out of sight. Once he can't see you, quietly step off the course and hide. You'll be behind a tree or somewhere, but he won't know that. By the last mile, he'll panic, speed up a lot, and think you're far ahead. It'll be fun watching him and seeing him confused when he's told that he won the race.

One other note: this will work best on a course with many twists and turns.

just some 17 year old wrote:

Running doesn't mean shit unless you win.

You are a commplete f-tard. Seriously....not only are you a pathetic loser, you are incredibly stupid. Please leave the sport and don't both anyone who's a runner again. Go play ping pong or somethig as you are too stupid to be a runner.

Try it, this may be a break through race for you.... if an d when he does catch up make him work for the lead... you might just break him and you'll win but race the whole way, not just until he overtakes you.... you said you have always been a drafter and this has lead you to 16:-- maybe leading or being up front will push you to sub 16 and put some fear into others that may be just in front of you normally when you draft..... good luck and let us know how this works out for better or worse, I hope it works for the best again good luck....

Keep this in mind:

"Leaders never win. Winners never lead."

All the best luck, you'll need it to survive the last few kms ;)

One thing wrote:

Keep this in mind:

"Leaders never win. Winners never lead."

Bekele? Is that you?

Just Some (Dumb) 17-year-old:

Your plan, not to mention the rationale behind it, is utterly ridiculous. If your coach knows anything about your intended race...uh..."strategy" and isn't discouraging it, then he's an idiot too.

That being said, it seems like you're fixed on flying and dying for this particular race. So why did you even bother asking for input?