Slowest 1:45 800m runnner?

Wild guess, 48 and 23. Probably 23 high, who knows though. Ive known a few guys that fast, and they were all inside those marks. So I assume it might be possible on a little less speed.

Like Bekele maybe, I bet he can run 1:46 for sure, and not any faster than 48. Then again, he also runs 26:17. If you're asking about an 800 specialist, those times might be 47 and low 23's or 22 high.

Willis can't run sub 49 rolling. He couldn't crack 24 over 200m and I would say theres others slower than him to have broken 1:46.

Bekele would be lucky to break 50 in the quarter.

Horwill's 4 second rule says 0:49 for 400 and 0:24.5 for 200.

52.5 and 26.25

peaches wrote:

52.5 and 26.25

whenever there's a question similar to the one i've made, someone always comes along and gives a stupid answer such as this.

thanks for the other replies.

imma juss say if u cant run 48 in the 400m forget about running 1:45

you can't be talking about nick willis because he can run well faster than 49

Romny wrote:

Willis can't run sub 49 rolling. He couldn't crack 24 over 200m and I would say theres others slower than him to have broken 1:46.

Steve Scott maybe? I know he ran like 1:45.01 but I still don't think his top end speed was anything special. Maybe 49 and 24?

There's a journal article from a few years back that addressed 400m speed versus 800m time. It was focused on how to train lactic tolerance, but the statistics were interesting.

Basically, the author proposes a conversion ratio from 400 to 800. So if your best 400m time was 55 and you could run the 800 in 2:00, your conversion ratio was 5 seconds per lap, which was good.

The gist of it was at the time, Alberto Juantorena had one of the worst conversion ratios at 7.5 seconds, but of course he was an incredible 400m runner. (44.26/1:43.44). Coe was on the other end at 4 seconds (46.82/1:41.73), and Rick Wohlhuter was the best at 3.5 seconds conversion (48.2/1:43.4).

So...if someone could buffer as well as Wohlhuter, they would run 49.0 for 400m. Figure that 22.3 second speed is necessary to do that, by the formula 2x200m time + 10%.

Semenya

Poster Formerly Known asGoober wrote:

Steve Scott maybe? I know he ran like 1:45.01 but I still don't think his top end speed was anything special. Maybe 49 and 24?

Actually, Scott could run 48+ out of the blocks in HS without specifically training for the 400. He was actually quite fast.

ELG

I think I would put my money on Bekele breaking 50 more than running sub 1:45.You are not going to get a good answer to this question. Very few of the 800m guys have legit 400m prs (run when in shape in a legit race) and 200m times are even worse. You get practice times, relays, HS prs when they were 6 seconds slower, and so on.

on the runs wrote:

Bekele would be lucky to break 50 in the quarter.

aaaaaaaa wrote:

You are not going to get a good answer to this question. Very few of the 800m guys have legit 400m prs (run when in shape in a legit race) and 200m times are even worse. You get practice times, relays, HS prs when they were 6 seconds slower, and so on.

49.0 is as slow as you could legitimately be. Think about it this way, if Coe or Wohlhuter could run their 400's faster, then the conversion ratio becomes bigger (worse). And we're assuming they found their max potential at 800. So 3.5 seconds per lap is the outer limit; in other words 49.0 + 3.5 = 52.5 x 2 laps = 1:45.

It's one thing for a high-mileage high-schooler to have PR's of 57.0 and 2:00, but it's quite another for a world class runner specializing at 800. 1:45 off only 51.0 speed just ain't happening.

Raced Him in HS wrote:

Poster Formerly Known asGoober wrote:

Steve Scott maybe? I know he ran like 1:45.01 but I still don't think his top end speed was anything special. Maybe 49 and 24?

Actually, Scott could run 48+ out of the blocks in HS without specifically training for the 400. He was actually quite fast.

Not true according to his own bio.

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Cram ran 1:42 but could barely break 49.

bennyb0y wrote:

Cram ran 1:42 but could barely break 49.

That's hard to believe, but according to a BMC newsletter (Spring 2003), his official 400m PR is listed as 49.1.