An iron man like the one in Louisville, not necessarily a real hard on like Hawaii. Could he finish in under 10 hours?
An iron man like the one in Louisville, not necessarily a real hard on like Hawaii. Could he finish in under 10 hours?
No f'ing way.
1:39 Swim
10 min T1
Makes it to mile 60 of the bike and DNF's.
No training? He would drown.
Broomwagon.
judaspreesies wrote:
No training? He would drown.
Unfortunately, I think this is right.
Absolutely, you're an idiot if you don't think Ritz has the engine to bike 112 miles...I can bike that far and I haven't run a step in years!
9:59:59
Bear of Bad News wrote:
judaspreesies wrote:No training? He would drown.
Unfortunately, I think this is right.
Forunately I agree with the Bear on this you/he might be able run and bike off normal life experience but a mileannahalf open water swim-not so much.
its actually a 2.4 mile swim
Even if he could swim the entire way, he'd never make the cutoff time for the swim.
What's "no training??" You mean if he just sat around and didn't run, bike or swim for an entire year or five?
if ya cant step right inna water untrained and make it to 1.5 it dont madder how much more ya aint swimming.But thanks for info what are standard distances for TrisI know Hawaii is 26.2 for running and they have mini-tris it a lot of places running 10km.
over 1.5 miles wrote:
its actually a 2.4 mile swim
2.4swim 112 bike and a mary in the end. there are 4 standard distances with the ironman being the longest, sprint being the shortest and it usually takes around an hour. and NO he could not do it. he doesnt have the glycogen storage capacity to do the bike without completely shredding his legs. thats also assuming he could make the swim cutoff. not saying he could be pretty damn good at them if he tried but off of no training... it just cant be done.
coach bigfoot wrote:
An iron man like the one in Louisville, not necessarily a real hard on like Hawaii. Could he finish in under 10 hours?
No one can complete a Iron man Tri without training.
He needs to put on about 20lbs of muscle.
I'll give him a year of tri training and he'll finish, but mid packer...which is actually a compliment.
The swim requires skill. The bike requires power.
Alan
Lets's say he did train and lost some 5 km shape on the way to 13'18". I guess with some training even at 132 pounds he would get well enough in shape to at least compete somewhat.
If he would start cycling 4 times a week with wattage and is capable after three months of riding 300 watt sub maximally on the bike (considering his running talent it seems a possibility) i guess he would be capable of putting in 200 - 210 watt on the bike. A good bike he would get. That would put him up for a 5h 10 - 5 h 15 ride on an american ironman.
Swimming:
He has to work hard here, but you could get a lot done if you are willing to work 2 hours a day 6 days a week on technique even if you can't swim well initially above the couple of 1000 yards he gets during those training sessions the volume goes up to 2.5 hours a day with 30 minutes of extra aerobic conditioning or a broken mile swim in 30'. What should be relaxed for him by then and slower then race pace.
so swimming goes 1 h 5 - 1 h 10
running:
Here he would be in the advantage but not a lot. I'd give him an aerobic threshold of 5'02" per mile using the 0.85 x 5 km per mile speed to calculate aerobic threshold. After three months with 5 hours cross training a day i don't see him put in more then 8 hours of running a week. Now since he isn't experienced and even those athletes go slightly below aerobic threshold i guess it would be legimate to add 15" per mile. I would give him a 2 hour 18 to 2 hour 19 run on the ironman. A world record by almost 25 minutes on the world's best triathletes he might fare badly if just 3 months training but on a year of this i could see him do this.
so we get:
1 h 8 swim ---> 2' transition ---> 5 h 15 bike ride ---> 3' transition ---> 2 h 18 run TOTAL = 8 h 41
If i where to chose to train someone to be a pro triathlete from the olympic distance to the hawaii ironman it would certainly be alan webb. He would give you american's an olympic gold a world champion and a hawaii ironman win.
Why?
At 145 pounds and in the same 13'18" 5 km shape he just has much more muscle at the other events. He would be capable of beating lance in an ironman i think. It would be either alan webb or solinsky that could become so good in triathlon that they would be classes of their own. Both would break 29 minutes for a legimate 10 km while the other best runners would fare back with 29'40" - 30'30" runs. Both have the engine to participate in top level swimming and cycling. I wonder who would win though.
note also that in order to be somewhat competitive ritz would need to gain 10 pounds of muscle thus possibly lose more running performance. So it would be either the sub 2 h 20 mark or possibly comming close to 8 hours but with a more reasonable 2 h 30 marathon run.
Hmmmm, can he wear a lil manbra and some thigh level compression socks? If so, then things look better.
Man I love the hard working, blue collar tude of the tri-guys.
Why some days I don't shave my legs and caress my lovely body with scented oils and herb induced liniments.
I don't think Webb has the heart for a Marathon after over 2 miles of swimming and 100+km of biking.