Will Ritzenhein's one 5k be enough for a top ten world ranking?

Depends on how Brussels shakes out. I could see him world ranking in both, especially if he races--and races well again--in Brussels.

So which is the better performance: Ritz new AR or Lagat getting a silver at Worlds? Tough call. Me, I like running fast so Ritz is the man.

Anyone know what the elevation is in Zurich?

Zurich is huge. Each event might as well be a global championship final. I say on the strength of that performance alone, he gets Top-Ten ranked.

When is Rieti?

Malmo: Ritz would stand a better shot of being ranked if that was his only 5000 of the year. But he finished second to Shaheen in 13:34.00 in June in Toronto.

On a related note, I expect we'll have male Americans world ranked (or near misses) at 800 (Symmonds), 1500 (Lagat, Lomong?), 5000 (Ritz?), and 10000 (Ritz, Rupp?).

been wondering wrote:

Anyone know what the elevation is in Zurich?

It's about 1500 ft. A little more than Atlanta.

Jossi wrote:

Malmo: Ritz would stand a better shot of being ranked if that was his only 5000 of the year. But he finished second to Shaheen in 13:34.00 in June in Toronto.

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Races in lower tier events generally don't count against.

Usual worthless prediction based upon years of seeing the TFN rating criteria

Kenny B

Lagat

C'Kurui

Kipchoge

Soi

RITZ

Kipsiro

Abdosh

Kiptoo

Chepkok

Would take a massively quick race to knock Ritz out. could see Kiptoo ranked ahead of Ritz Because of Rome, but Ritz beat head to head which counts hugely.

agapius mackwamba wrote:

Usual worthless prediction based upon years of seeing the TFN rating criteria

Kenny B

Lagat

C'Kurui

Kipchoge

Soi

RITZ

Kipsiro

Abdosh

Kiptoo

Chepkok

Would take a massively quick race to knock Ritz out. could see Kiptoo ranked ahead of Ritz Because of Rome, but Ritz beat head to head which counts hugely.

That looks about right.

I agree, Zurich basically ranks #2 in importance right now, so a 3rd there with a high list time should still be top 10, probably 8 or so.

Malmo, don't performances at Worlds and the Olympics count more for world rankings that other races? In this instance, of course, it would be only Worlds - and the ten Kilometer. Still, those racing the five at Worlds might receive better consideration.

Your thoughts on this. f

The Road to Ruin wrote:

Malmo, don't performances at Worlds and the Olympics count more for world rankings that other races? In this instance, of course, it would be only Worlds - and the ten Kilometer. Still, those racing the five at Worlds might receive better consideration.

Your thoughts on this. f

You're right. But head-to-head compettion in the 2nd most important event (Zurich) counts too.

Ritzenhein straight up whupped the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at Zurich.

malmo wrote:

Ritzenhein straight up whupped the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at Zurich.

I mean "...Ritzenhein straight up whupped the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at Berlin."

I think it's pretty obvious that Lagat could break the AR if he weren't more focused on the 1500. Does that answer your question?

Ninetonite wrote:

So which is the better performance: Ritz new AR or Lagat getting a silver at Worlds? Tough call. Me, I like running fast so Ritz is the man.

Geb was ranked #10 in 2004 after his one 5000m win in London over Mottram. But that was Geb, and it gave him a one point lifetime total ranking margin over Zatopek.

i heard a RUMOR ritz, teg and lagat will be in fridays brussells 5k that will help determine the rankings if true.

can anyone confirm or deny this rumor and/or if anyone has startlists fror that race, please post it. thank you.

malmo wrote:

malmo wrote:

Ritzenhein straight up whupped the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at Zurich.

I mean "...Ritzenhein straight up whupped the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at Berlin."

Yes but the zurich race was a time trialed rabbitted race. The world champs count more than these other races. There's no rabbits. Thats why they call it the world championships. How would ritz faired in the berlin 5k? I guaurentee you kipsiro, teg, lagat and abdosh would've beaten when it counted.

SHOTGUN wrote:

Yes but the zurich race was a time trialed rabbitted race. The world champs count more than these other races. There's no rabbits. Thats why they call it the world championships. How would ritz faired in the berlin 5k? I guaurentee you kipsiro, teg, lagat and abdosh would've beaten when it counted.

Where do you get the idea that I think the World Championships isn't the most important race? It is. Zurich is the 2nd most important race.

What do paid pacers have anything to do with it? That's irrelevant. Ritzenhein straightup whupped on the 3rd, 4th and 9th place finishers at the 5000 World Championships. That matters.