Usain Bolt would not laugh so much if..

I didnt know about that. thats impressive..

Michael johnson got this speed endurance from his 400 training i think, so to better his first 100 meters time he should have trained 100+400, rather than 100 instead of 400, but in this case he would have been unbeatable for years even for bolt 'clown' so far IMO.

thats why usain aint ready by far to beat mj world record for 400m

let time go by

agreed

Dont forget old feats wrote:

If johnson had been a better sprinter in 100 meters he would have blown UB away. (he preferred to beat 400 wr instead..)

Imagine 9.92 (training 100 like bolt has done) + 9.15(with no injury and easing, brutal time) = 19.07

or how about this:

If bolt had been a better endurance sprinter in 400 meters he would have blown MJ away. (he preferred to beat 100 wr instead..)

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The argument goes both ways, of course that doesn't matter because it's a retarded argument that has no basis in reality whatsoever. If MJ could've run faster he would've. God you're stupid.

If you are referring to today's 4 by 100 meters where Bolt is seen cracking a laugh with Spearmon as he crosses the finish line first, just so you know Bolt and Spearmon are good friends and are always joking around. People should just give it a rest already.

maths + not having references or set goals to 'run faster' + injuring his ham the last 10 meters thus not running the 4x4 relay + having the fastest second 100 meters in HISTORY are the basis I got.

YOU are stupid and an iliterate on this matter.sorry

Terminator X wrote:

If MJ could've run faster he would've. God you're stupid.

Not really. Almost no one ever runs the best possible race; such a thing is rare.

Outliers wrote:

If you are referring to today's 4 by 100 meters where Bolt is seen cracking a laugh with Spearmon as he crosses the finish line first, just so you know Bolt and Spearmon are good friends and are always joking around. People should just give it a rest already.

Im aware of that, and I was not refering to this but rather to his general attitude towards the rest of cometitors and the sport, he should learn something from frank fredericks, jonathan edwards, jan zelezny and so on all them class act

Dont forget old feat wrote:

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Im aware of that, and I was not refering to this but rather to his general attitude towards the rest of cometitors and the sport, he should learn something from frank fredericks, jonathan edwards, jan zelezny and so on all them class act

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And do tell in what way does he have an 'attitude' and has not been a 'class act'. He gave us the most exciting 100m and 200m race in Berlin, running all out, and did it with personality something sadly lacking with other t&f stars. I have non track friends tuning in to watch track meets just to see him run and the pure joy he brings to track because he seems to genuinely enjoy what he is doing . The guy has put track back on the map and I know he is not American and we live (unfortunately) in an American-centric world but I don't think anybody should really hold that against him.

Dont forget old feats wrote:

maths + not having references or set goals to 'run faster' + injuring his ham the last 10 meters thus not running the 4x4 relay + having the fastest second 100 meters in HISTORY are the basis I got.

YOU are stupid and an iliterate on this matter.sorry

Hmm, Bolt has a better sequence of 200m marks, a better combined 100, 200, 400 PR using tables and ran a faster overall 200. When they give out medals for the second half of the race, I'm sure MJ can get the gold. Further, if you think MJ is any more of a class act than Bolt, you're just ignoring reality.

If you think the injured ham in the last 200 cost him a sub-19.20, I'd like to see data on that. Are there 10m splits to analyze? Your own evidence contradicts your claimed impact of that injury.

Maths? Seriously? References? Goals? What was Bolt's reference for 19.20? His own record? Like MJ? Unlike MJ, Bolt has approached that time again. Apparently having the 19.32 reference didn't help that much.

MJ was the greatest long sprinter of all time, leave it at that. You don't need to make it something it wasn't.

PS Did you really spell illiterate incorrectly? Ouch.

1) Injury was one factor, the most important one would be of course, to have train 100 specifically, learn to read.

2) Michael johnson can be a little big mouth sometimes but he didnt look like a retard doing antics before one Olympic final, one the most important moments in the life of the other 7 runners besides him and never laughed like bolt does when knowing he was so far ahead of the rest.

3)first goal for bolt=19.32, the most valuable mark in history in the track (thats a good goal imo). he got 19.30, so 0,02 seconds better

first goal for johnson=19.66 by himself, he got 19.32 (tought to be not humanly possible by far at that time, he just had beaten pietro mennea 19.72 by 0,04 seconds since 1979!!) so he got 0,32 better, not 0,02 like bolt

In 19.19 run he just improve his start and had less headwind as shown in the splits (check out science of sport or similar)

4)Im not an english speaker, so it cost me an effort to answer, plus I wasnt talking about 'illiterate' in the sense of writing as obvious.

0,34 not 0,32!

Dont forget old feats:

Some of us find his pre and post race antics entertaining. His pre race antics are his way of preparing for a race. The most important thing in sprinting is relaxation. Some relax by being all serious like Tyson Gay, Bolt does his relaxation by clowning around. I find it enjoyable.

I find it enjoyable how Michael Johnson just can't handle the fact that Bolt is better than he was. Johnson calls out Bolt before Worlds this year, and the Olympics last year, saying he won't break the record. I, for one, am glad that MJ will continually get a dose of humble pie until Bolt calls it a career (and has the 400m record under his belt too.)

today was actually revenge for this

http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/spearmon_bolt_tongue.jpg

Now I love the Idea of Bolt completely obliterating the WR too, but you have to be realistic. The OP wanted to give facts to support why Bolt has a LOT of work ahead of him if he even wants to touch MJ's 400 WR time. I've probably posted on this subject 10 times already, but people need to realize that the 400 is not just a "sprint" in it's simplest terms, it's a speed endurance event. Even the the 200 is somewhat a speed endurance event, as MJ's closing 100 shows.

MJ actually set that 200 meter WR while focusing SOLELY on the 400. He wasn't a 100 meter runner gone 200, or 200 runner gone 400, but a 400 runner going down to the 200. When he set that 200 record, he had not even broke 10 in the 100 yet. Not necessarily just because he was slow, but for two reasons. 1) He didn't waste his time working on pure acceleration like the 100 runners do, he focused on MAX speed and speed endurance. He was a very fast guy with a lot of turnover, but it would have given him limited gains when it comes to the 400 (or even 200 for that matter). Just as a distance runner cannot run 140 miles per week at marathon pace to gain aerobic fitness while also doing 2-3 hard V02 max sessions, a sprinter can only train certain aspects of his race as well. Training for acceleration would have limited his ability to get to top speed, or to hold a fast speed. 2) His body was obviously built to accommodate longer length sprints. He did work on his acceleration to a point, and if he was good at that it would have shown more results in his 100 meter races, but it didn't. People think Bolt is a 400 meter runner just because he ran a good time when he was younger. 45.xx is really good for a 16 year old, but what would you say is better, 45.xx or 19.xx? The answer is clearly the sub-20, as not many people in the world are capable of that. So while Bolts strengths begin to show as the distance gets LOWER, MJ's strengths showed as he went LONGER. He was just built for the 200/400.

One last thing to mention about MJ, during his 19.32 WR, he did not have an optimal race. It was actually far from optimal, he just happened to be in amazing shape at the time. He stumbled out of the blocks pretty substantially, causing him a slow start, slow first 100, and ultimately a slower max speed than he would have been able to attain otherwise. You can even see it on a video on youtube if you get a good angle, usually they are taken from very high up though.

This being said, MJ's 400 record is safe for a WHILE. Bolt is very quick over 200 meters, but it will take a lot for him to drop OVER 2 seconds off of his current personal best, and we may never see him come even close.

BOLT is so much faster at 100m than MJ that he was a cinch to break the 200 record.As for the 400 , MJ was one of very few 200 sprinters who trained for it . Henry Carr and Tommy Smith did well in their 400 tries but never really trained to run over 200 . It has been a long time since someone really fast has has had the desire to run over the seldom run 300.Spearmon and Gay should try it as it looks like they will always be in Bolts wake. Imagine a 400 race for big bucks with the guys just mentioned plus Wariner and Merritt and a few others like Quow who is rapidly improving!Next years Weltclasse?

1. I reviewed your posts, you never said "train 100 specifically". Again, you need to lighten up on the reading skills insults as you have again shown yours to be inferior. Further, I speak five languages, so if you want to argue in another language, let's go ahead. Polish?

Further, you still fail to address my point:

You say he was injured at the end of that race yet you also boast of it being the best second half of a 200. Which is it?

2. "Look like a retard"? Classy. Again, I don't see why your panties are so bunched up over a guy having fun. Is he talking smack? Is he dropping out of races that are specifically set up for him? Let's worry about actual actions.

3. Is it Bolt's fault that MJ couldn't find motivation? This is a ludicrous argument. The fact that Bolt has broken it again while MJ never broke 19.60 again. The fact remains, Bolt has a better sequence of marks in a much shorter career.

4. I don't care what sense of illiterate you're using. If you are going to mock someone else's reading/writing, try to spell the word right or keep your mouth shut, otherwise you look like a fool. When the whole point of your post is that Bolt looks like a fool, well, it makes you look like a hypocrite.

Sincerely,

Wendell