Healthcare reform

sadly, we may never know. It doesn't look like any substantial heath care reform measures will be legislated. No, we will be forced to deal with our inefficient system for an indefinitely longer period of time. It is really kind of comical that America pictures itself as a world leader and puts up with one of the world's poorer health care systems.

He already was under the government's health care plan.

Not the congressional plan, the kind we're going to get. duh

The answer is yes if he/she wanted the treatment... moving along now.

You are DEAD TED... get lost.

shonuff. wrote:

sadly, we may never know. It doesn't look like any substantial heath care reform measures will be legislated. No, we will be forced to deal with our inefficient system for an indefinitely longer period of time. It is really kind of comical that America pictures itself as a world leader and puts up with one of the world's poorer health care systems.

Well, you just identified yourself as a tool. Get at least a small amount of education before you prove to the board that you are ignorant by posting...

Speaking of Tools, Ted Kennedy will finally be seen as the tool he is by how he will be used after his death to push along the "reform".

Ted is going to be buried at Arlington next to his over rated brothers. Why don't they put a wick in Ted's liver and light a match. Then there will be eternal flames there.

Dead Kennedys wrote:

Great band!

As a doctor myself, I just hope that our new health care plan will cease the funding of nonsensical, expensive research. Much like the fictional work of Dr. Ernst Grafenberg.

obvious answer wrote:

shonuff. wrote:

sadly, we may never know. It doesn't look like any substantial heath care reform measures will be legislated. No, we will be forced to deal with our inefficient system for an indefinitely longer period of time. It is really kind of comical that America pictures itself as a world leader and puts up with one of the world's poorer health care systems.

Well, you just identified yourself as a tool. Get at least a small amount of education before you prove to the board that you are ignorant by posting...

Speaking of Tools, Ted Kennedy will finally be seen as the tool he is by how he will be used after his death to push along the "reform".

Thanks for correcting my mistake without providing any information to support your incorrect position. It is obvious from the tone of your posting that you are not in favor of healthcare reform. I must assume that you are employed by the health insurance industry and really don't care about the health of the nation. Our current system is a model if inefficiency and ineffectiveness. Our insurance system works to put barriers to wellness in place. Our current system is all about generating dollars for the insurance peddlars and the hospital/dr admin groups. It is a true shame.

Ted Kennedy wrote:

would an obese alcoholic 77 year old with brain cancer be able to go to the world's best doctor's in an effort to prolong his life under the governments healthcare plan?

Do you think an obese, alcoholic 77 year old with brain cancer not named Kennedy would be able to get private health insurance?

I'm guessing the answer is "no".

Blowing.Rock Master wrote:

Dead Kennedys wrote:

Great band!

You're the first one to notice that. Congratulations.

Dr. Love wrote:

As a doctor myself, I just hope that our new health care plan will cease the funding of nonsensical, expensive research. Much like the fictional work of Dr. Ernst Grafenberg.

Nice ernst grafenberg reference.

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Finally a good post. About seven years back I saw Ted and some young girl in a Pennsylvania eatery. He was there on some speech he had to do. Both he and the girl were smoking heavily and drinking big time. Few months later I heard his pitch on cigarettes must be stopped. The Liberal Liar!

Ted Kennedy wrote:

...the world's best doctor's ...

Do you need, "the world's best"? Will that materially affect the outcome? Did it help Ted? What was 6 months of barely being able to function worth? At the end of it, was he happy he had those 6 months? Family members of mine who had their lives prolonged by treatment ended up refusing more treatment - it is not worth it financially or for a Quality of Life perspective.

Healthcare treatment is like legal work, accounting, auto repair - you need "competent", not "the best". People who pay up for, "the best" are manipulated by fear.

i guess some people still don't understand the word "option", if the public health care plan kills old people and is so horrible in general..don't take it.

The funny thing is that people argue that a)the public insurance is gonna be horrible and b)the private insurance companies wouldn't be able to keep up with it...

Of course if they are gonna start to finance it out of the budget because it can't work independently then you can complain but that's not the plan.

The discussion so far has been borderline insane, i'm also skeptical that a public plan would be that much cheaper but i'm definietly for starting it, experimenting with new ideas might reduce costs, doing nothing beside name calling will definietly not.

Off the Grid wrote:

Ted Kennedy wrote:

...the world's best doctor's ...

Do you need, "the world's best"? Will that materially affect the outcome? Did it help Ted? What was 6 months of barely being able to function worth? At the end of it, was he happy he had those 6 months? Family members of mine who had their lives prolonged by treatment ended up refusing more treatment - it is not worth it financially or for a Quality of Life perspective.

Healthcare treatment is like legal work, accounting, auto repair - you need "competent", not "the best". People who pay up for, "the best" are manipulated by fear.

SHUT THE FUCK UP, you who volitionally block out all of objective reality. You don't have a fucking CLUE what it is like to have been seriously harmed by a physician. Anything that encourages the doctors to become less competent than they already are will as a matter of absolute methematical certainty cause the entire community of healthcare professionals to drown in a tidal wave of rampage stupidity. This county is going to get it in the neck SO F***ING BADLY in future if this goes through.

How does a public option encourage physicians to harm their patients or be neglectiful? Is that another clause next to the one about mandatory death panels and the other one about making Nancy Pelosi queen of Montana?

chill out and have a qualude, brah.