he can barely win his local turkey trot.
if we can't send our best, we shouldn't send anyone.
embarrassing.
he can barely win his local turkey trot.
if we can't send our best, we shouldn't send anyone.
embarrassing.
A solid performance for Dan. Leave him alone.
yeah. he always gives a solid performance for him. i don't want some hack's solid performance. i want our best.
Browne's race was about where he should have finished in that field. With Justin Young DNFing, and Ed Torres not starting, that certainly hurt how the U.S. looked. The fact that Meb, Abdi, Hall, Sell and Ritz weren't competing, this is about what you had to expect.
However, on the track we're obviously seeing the strength in the U.S. distance squad. Do more resources need to be poured into marathoning in the U.S.?
Just an extension of that amazing US resurgence in the marathon ushered in by the NYC OT marathon! Not so much about Dan as it is about everyone else. Dan's a gamer and he's done his best with whatever's left in him since Athens. He's had a fork stuck firmly in him over the marathon distance since the OT. Can't fault him for that, he was offered the team spot based on that performance. Wittenberg and co. eagerly patting themselves on the back for their role in the supposed resurgence means nothing now. We did put two in front of Japan's 5th finisher, which is better that I thought we'd do and worse than I thought the Japanese would do. The past two years for men's US marathoners shows a more realistic picture of our progress than 2007 did.
mess wrote:
yeah. he always gives a solid performance for him. i don't want some hack's solid performance. i want our best.
Dan Browne a hack?
You're a disgrace.
he couldn't win my local turkey trot.
hack is a compliment.
Just saw the marathon photos. When did Dan start wearing adidas?
mess wrote:
yeah. he always gives a solid performance for him. i don't want some hack's solid performance. i want our best.
What do you expect when you select the team from a race TWO years ago.
Heaven forbid we require a fitness test, especially since the selection race was from so long ago.
Complete short-sightedness and complete lack of logic from USA LDR committee "more money than God".
When he had to start buying his own shoes.
mess wrote:
he can barely win his local turkey trot.
if we can't send our best, we shouldn't send anyone.
embarrassing.
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How do you figure? He had 3rd and maybe 2nd locked up in the 2008 marathon trials. Everyone at the race saw him stop several times for a severe calf cramp. He was in shape, but had to give in to the severe pain and walk it off while he got passed.
mess wrote:
yeah. he always gives a solid performance for him. i don't want some hack's solid performance. i want our best.
No one cares what you want.
New Englandrunnerdude wrote:
How do you figure? He had 3rd and maybe 2nd locked up in the 2008 marathon trials. Everyone at the race saw him stop several times for a severe calf cramp. He was in shape, but had to give in to the severe pain and walk it off while he got passed.
So not really "locked up" at all. When he was 3rd he was running harder than his body would allow for the entire distance, hence the "severe calf cramp."
Not sure why you're making snide comments about Witternberg. What does she have to do with the fact that the top five finishers in the Trials didn't run this marathon?
They were actually snarky and the point you somehow missed was that the declarations and self-congratulations were entirely premature.
No, the point YOU missed is that if the top five guys in the U.S. don't want to do this there is no reason to hold anyone else accountable.
No, the point is actually that if there really is a "resurgence" as they trumpeted after the NYC OT then the second five guys in the U.S. wouldn't be this bad! We have a few respectable outliers come along every decade or two, but otherwise our "development system" blows chunks.
America is simply to soft for LD. Americans are to soft to be good at marathon running. There is really nothing you can do to change that other than to send Americans over to the Rift Valley for training for a few years. You do that, and the Americans will be good again. But, Americans are too soft to be able to live and train with Kenyans so they won't.
America is to soft for LD wrote:
But, Americans are too soft to be able to live and train with Kenyans so they won't.
I agree.
Howeve, living there would mean paying a price most would not be willing to pay. And that is understandable.
Belgian Waffle wrote:
A solid performance for Dan. Leave him alone.
He got 24th and ran a 2:16 how is that solid? Its better than Nate Jenkins 2:32 but its not "solid" its ehh. If we want to compete in the marathon Hall or Ritz will have to do it. I don't fault them for not doing it this year but they are really our only hope for the event.