wariner ran 43.82 last year... his best time this year is 44.60!
wariner ran 43.82 last year... his best time this year is 44.60!
I think he is getting older. Assuming he was trying in the 200 at USAs, he has clearly lost a lot of speed. I know it's stupid for a silver medalist 400-meter guy to try his endurance at 800, but maybe he should think about it, or at least altering his training to emphasize more endurance in his 400 if he can't blaze the track any longer.
He's 25. His age should not be a problem. Something's not right in his preparation. I hope he gets his form back next year and shows us some mid-43s.
V6 wrote: I think he is getting older.
Way to go out on a limb. I assume that KD is immune from this phenomenom?
Wariner just lacks the flat 200 speed of Merritt. I do not believe that he can catch up to him. Merritt was incredibly relaxed the last 100 M of the race. I believe Merritt has a real shot at Johnsons' 400 record. All the talk of Wariner moving up to the 800 is not such an unbelievable scenario now. Merritt has been doing 30 minute runs and they seem to have paid off in multiple round events.H looked to have more to ginve if needed in the final.
please make it stop!!! wrote:
wariner ran 43.82 last year... his best time this year is 44.60!
He was injured this season
You dumbass
Wariner was just a hair behind coming into the homestretch but then slowed much more than Merrit did. He faded because he lacked strength, not speed.
Leanermeaner wrote:
Wariner was just a hair behind coming into the homestretch but then slowed much more than Merrit did. He faded because he lacked strength, not speed.
Not necessarily true. Speed and strength are inherently intertwined. If Wariner was running closer to his max speed in the first 300 than Merritt, the strength issue becomes much more variable.
jacknide wrote:
Merritt has been doing 30 minute runs
Really? How many much distance running do these guys do?
The Olympian, anyone?
Hart should give him a refund.
You, like most people on an endurance web site greatly misuse the term strength. The issue here is special endurance-not the kind of endurance you get from 30 minute runs.
V6 wrote:
Leanermeaner wrote:Wariner was just a hair behind coming into the homestretch but then slowed much more than Merrit did. He faded because he lacked strength, not speed.
Not necessarily true. Speed and strength are inherently intertwined. If Wariner was running closer to his max speed in the first 300 than Merritt, the strength issue becomes much more variable.
100% Correct. People like leanermeaner are the ones who comment on how so and so has no kick....which often follows the same priciple...you can't kick if you are already dead....and if you're hardly taxed, you're going to kick pretty well. Same case here....if merritt was in better 400 shape....the same first 200 would have drastically different impacts on the two people's races. If they both go out in 21.2, and Merritt is in 20.0 shape and Wariner 20.7 shape, Wariner is going to be feeling it PRETTY quick following that first 200...whilst if Merritt has been training well, that first 200 shouldn't feel too taxing on him.
Thoughts of a JW 800 are no longer crazy.
I wanna see some 1:45s next year. Good upside for 2011.
-STS
It's nice that some people on here actually understand that speed is maybe more important than endurance, even for distance events.
You can't run a fast mile if you cant run a fast 800 and you cant run a fast 800 if you cant run a fast 400 and you most certainly cant run a fast 400 without being able to run a fast 200.
At the NCAA meet back in June somebody left a shoe on the track to mark relay hand offs. Jeremy hit it hard and rolled his ankle pretty bad. Set him back about 5 weeks. He will be back. Mark it down. In the 400 that is.
He also just started training with hart in May so thats a pretty late start for switching coaches.
Run fast wrote:
At the NCAA meet back in June somebody left a shoe on the track to mark relay hand offs. Jeremy hit it hard and rolled his ankle pretty bad. Set him back about 5 weeks. He will be back. Mark it down. In the 400 that is.
I don't understand. What was he doing at the NCAA meet?
Silver and Cold wrote:
The Olympian, anyone?
Actually thought of that book when I heard about Webb moving to Oregon. But I guess this case fits better, although Clyde Hart is hardly the maverick type. Great book, though.
please make it stop!!! wrote:
wariner ran 43.82 last year... his best time this year is 44.60!
He didn't get back to working with Hart until May. He went back because he was losing more strength under Ford, just as he'd lost some the year before. Give him a full year under Hart's regimen and then see what happens. The ignorance around here is hilarious I must say.