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To The Wire
! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:30AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Let's get a thread started focused on predictions for this year. Here are my top teams:

1. Adams State --Enough said.

2. Western State --With the arrival of new Foreigners and their solid returners they are going to be tough.

3. Chico State --They lose their front runner but always have a strong pack.

4. Colorado Mines --After a dismal performance last season they return their top 4, with the growing age of Mclain it could get interesting.

5. Grand Valley --Again they always field outstanding teams with outstanding Coaching

6. Alaska Ancourage --With the rumors of arriving foreigners and their leader Cheseto they will be a strong team this year.

7. Harding --Kirwa is their lead man and I predict him for the individual title, not too familiar with rest of team.

8. Queens --Crouch is an amazing front runner and will pull this team to a top ten finish.

9. Abilene Christian --This is the kicker. With their program in shambles from violations and the recent departure of Charles White they have 4 great runners, but it takes 5 to win. I predict them at 9 but they could be anywhere up to third.

10. Drury --Expect some surprises from this team. Zapatero was All American last season and their young team is maturing.

11. Edinboro --This team is always in the hunt but I don't think they will crack the top 10 this year.

12. U Mass Lowell --If I remember right they lose Sanca to graduation so they may be lacking a front runner.

13. Metro State --Since Julian has jumped ship and their loss of Tolentino, there have been rumors of many of the team members transferring to be with Julian. With the team splitting, its tough to see them doing much better than this, despite their excellent track season.
ahahahahaaahahahahaha
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:35AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You mean Baby Nationals, right??
To The Wire
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:39AM - in reply to ahahahahaaahahahahaha Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Exactly right.
Sagarin
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:52AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The irony of that comment is that many Adams' teams of the late 80s would have won the Division 1 championship.
adams over oregon
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:58AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin wrote:

The irony of that comment is that many Adams' teams of the late 80s would have won the Division 1 championship.


And that Oregon's team this year is too big of babies to race Adams, who are not afraid of the Ducks in turn.
ahahahahaaahahahahaha
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 8:59AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin wrote:

The irony of that comment is that many Adams' teams of the late 80s would have won the Division 1 championship.


Well shucks. The irony of THAT statement is Adams St. didn't win a single Division 2 championship in the late 80s! BOOYAH!!!
Dismal????
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:00AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How can you say Colorado School of Mines had a dismal performance last season? They were 9th at nationals without their #2 man. They've been in the top 10 at nationals now for several seasons in a row. How many teams can say that?
In progress
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:02AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:05AM - in reply to ahahahahaaahahahahaha Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ahahahahaaahahahahaha wrote:

Well shucks. The irony of THAT statement is Adams St. didn't win a single Division 2 championship in the late 80s! BOOYAH!!!


And you do, of course, realize that Adams was NAIA in the late 80s right? As I said, of course.
d-dub
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:48AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How can you leave Western Washington out of the top 10?
I guess they are really going to surprise people this year.
To The Wire
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:53AM - in reply to d-dub Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I will admit I did neglect to mention Western Washington and Minn St. Mankato. All I know is that this year is stacked!!
To The Wire
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 9:57AM - in reply to Dismal???? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dismal is not the appropriate word. It's more like a less than best performance. Similar to the '06 team with Hamilton and Reindel and McDaris.
hours and minutes
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 10:32AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
From what I understand Mankato lost a lot. There are five spots from the North Cental Region. Two are going to Adams and Western. I'm pretty confident in saying that Mines will land another. That leaves two remaining spots for: Metro, Mankato, and Colorado-Colorado Springs, all of whom went to nationals last fall, as well as NM-Highlands, a top ten team from two years ago. Additionally, Augustana and Wayne State(Nebr.) looked ready to compete going into the Regional meet last year: does anyone know anything about them entering this season?
historian
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 11:13AM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To The Wire wrote:

9. Abilene Christian --This is the kicker. With their program in shambles from violations and the recent departure of Charles White they have 4 great runners, but it takes 5 to win. I predict them at 9 but they could be anywhere up to third.

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4th XC, 3rd indoors, 2nd outdoors = "program in shambles"
Wow, you're a tough guy to please.
ahahahahaaahahahahaha
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 2:04PM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin wrote:

[quote]ahahahahaaahahahahaha wrote:

Well shucks. The irony of THAT statement is Adams St. didn't win a single Division 2 championship in the late 80s! BOOYAH!!!


And you do, of course, realize that Adams was NAIA in the late 80s right? As I said, of course.[/quote]

Thanks! Know I now, and knowings half the battle!
To The Wire
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 6:48PM - in reply to historian Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
They do have a strong history. Don't you think they might have a little bit more difficulty with the Foreigner limit.
miler200000000000009
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/13/2009 6:59PM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dallas Baptist University will be in the top ten. If not this year then next.
dd1288
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/14/2009 1:51PM - in reply to To The Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I like your top 10, but would put Queens a little higher. Abilene may have an "off" year: http://d2cross.blogspot.com/
chickens before they hatch
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/14/2009 4:09PM - in reply to dd1288 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
dd1288 wrote:
Abilene may have an "off" year: http://d2cross.blogspot.com/


Or they may not. 2 international & 1 good American are gone from last years team. What would you do with all that money coming back? Hold on to it OR spend it on replacements?
rmac > nsic
RE: ! ! ! ! 2009 DII Cross Country ! ! ! ! 8/15/2009 8:57PM - in reply to hours and minutes Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
you heard it here first, no nsic teams go to nationals. north central region = 1. adams 2. western 3. mines 4. metro 5. nm highlands

mankato has three good guys up front i believe (Krasja, Makoya, Schmidt), then nothing of note
augustana was way over rated last year, they finished 10th at the regional after coming in ranked 5th
wayne state lost two guys who ran steeple at nationals this year (preston, schneider), and i've never heard of anyone else on their team
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