Frederick
Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 10:35AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Source: http://runningtimes.com/Print.aspx?articleID=5479
from the "infamous time trial" thread
Looks like he kept his log in kms and RT converted to miles.
I gotta go run...

Month: Miles, Rest Days, Training Sessions, Races
Oct '71: 244, 1, 60, 0
Nov '71: 331, 2, 62, 2
Dec '71: 459, 3, 70, 0
Jan '72: 395, 2, 62, 3
Feb '72: 524, 0, 76, 2
Mar '72: 512, 1, 66, 0
Apr '72: 391, 0, 64, 2
May '72: 366, 0, 62, 4
Jun '72: 304, 0, 55, 7
Jul '72: 347, 0, 62, 7
Aug '72: 420, 1, 61, 8
Sep '72: 273, 1, 52, 9

11/20-27/1971
Sun AM: 6.2M (45m)
Sun PM: 12.4M (1h32m)
Mon AM: 6.2M (45m)
Mon PM: 14.9M (1h45m)
Tue AM: 6.2M
Tue PM: 13.7M (1h35m)
Wed AM: 5.0M
Wed PM: rest
Thu AM: 6.2M (50m)
Thu PM: 6.8M (42m)
Fri AM: 5.0M (40m)
Fri PM: rest
Sat AM: 5.5M (48m)
Sat PM: 13.0M (1h22m)
mpw-101

3/19-25/1972
Sun AM: 6.2M (40m)
Sun PM: 13.0M (1h23m)
Mon AM: 11.2M (1h10m)
Mon PM: massage
Tue AM: 5.0M (34m)
Tue PM: 12.4M (1h15m)
Wed AM: 6.2M (40m)
Wed PM: 10.0M (57m)
Thu AM: 5.0M (33m)
Thu PM: 12.4M (1h20m)
Fri AM: 6.2M (41m)
Fri PM: 9.3M (52m)
Sat AM: 5.0M (30m)
Sat PM: 13.0M (5M@25:10, 5m rest, 5M@29:00)
mpw-115

4/9-16/1972
Sun AM: 10.0M aerobic
Sun PM: 5.0M w/ pickups
Mon AM: 10.0M aerobic
Mon PM: 5x600m on downward hill
Tue AM: 6.2M aerobic
Tue PM: 16.1M aerobic
Wed AM: 6.2M aerobic
Wed PM: 5x600m on downward hill
Thu AM: 5.0M
Thu PM: 12.4M (1h20m)
Fri AM: massage
Fri PM: 7.5M with about 1x1000m fast
Sat AM: 5.0M
Sat PM: 5x600m on downward hill
mpw-94

7/28-8/3/1972
Sun AM: 6.2M (42m)
Sun PM: 13.7M (1h25m)
Mon AM: 6.2M (42m)
Mon PM: 9.3M aerobic
Tue AM: 6.2M (42m)
Tue PM: 8.7M (1h05m) + 3x600m XC
Wed AM: 5.0M
Wed PM: 9.3M (1h8m)
Thu AM: 6.2M (44m)
Thu PM: 7.5M w/ 5k of 50m full speed + 50m floating
Fri AM: 6.2M (43m)
Fri PM: 5.5M (40m)
Sat AM: 5.5M (38m)
Sat PM: 6.2M race- 27:52.4
mpw-103

8/25-31/1972
Sun AM: 3.75M
Sun PM: 12.4M (1h28m)
Mon AM: 5.5M (42m)
Mon PM: 6.2M easy
Tue AM: 3.75M
Tue PM: 13.7M (1h20m)
Wed AM: 5.5M
Wed PM: 7.5M (50m)
Thu AM: 4.5M (35m)
Thu PM: 6.2M w/ 10x100m at half effort
Fri AM: 5.5M (42m)
Fri PM: rest
Sat AM: 4.5M (35m)
Sat PM: Olympic 10k heat
mpw-85
o.O
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 10:54AM - in reply to Frederick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The more races he had the less race days he took....
THE430MlLER
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 11:26AM - in reply to o.O Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Where is the doping schedule?
Caveman
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 11:36AM - in reply to Frederick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Running with the Legends" , Chapter 6, is all about Viren. Its really good detail.
o.O
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 12:24PM - in reply to THE430MlLER Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Where is that 430 mile you haven't run yet?
asdasd
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 12:37PM - in reply to o.O Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I always felt his 27:3x time was not indicative of his talent - because there were no rabbits in those days as there are now. He even broke that WR during a championship race while already falling down and getting behind.

If he was running in today's conditions (with rabbits, mondo tracks, etc..), I believe he would have been the first white man to go sub 27 minutes. Back then, he had superb sprint capability and endurance. He could close the last mile in a slow race in 3:59.

The 27:xx Americans these days are good but they are at their max by the last lap (case in point: Ritz). If you watch Viren's fastest races - he has plenty left at the end. Makes one wonder how much faster many of the 70s runners could have run given the chance of 5 or 6 rabbits hoovering them.
Viren Stats
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 12:43PM - in reply to asdasd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The guy was into some really manly hobbies including hunting ,driving a huge dump truck, and logging. Not to mention training in the arctic cold (to be fair he did have stints in South America).

Tim Broe would be proud.
runner_dude91
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 1:39PM - in reply to Viren Stats Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Have the allegations of doping been confirmed?
SMJO
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 1:57PM - in reply to runner_dude91 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Downward hill" What does that imply? Actual downhill running?
pnw runner
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 7/2/2009 4:45PM - in reply to runner_dude91 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nope.

It's all speculation based on a few other Finnish athletes being doped. Apparently if someone with the same nationality as you dopes then by association you also did.

And I'm sure someone will reply to this post telling me I'm a dumbass and that he for sure doped. After all this is Letsrun.
fgfg
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 11/26/2009 6:55AM - in reply to Frederick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the link says "The afternoon run should be between nine and 16 miles, run at up to 3:20/kilometer (5:20/mile) tempo."


But the log has them at 7-730 mile pace !
quenton
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 11/26/2009 1:12PM - in reply to fgfg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

fgfg wrote:

the link says "The afternoon run should be between nine and 16 miles, run at up to 3:20/kilometer (5:20/mile) tempo."


But the log has them at 7-730 mile pace !


You found the secret. Viren ran badger miles.
Will run for food
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 11/26/2009 10:12PM - in reply to pnw runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

pnw runner wrote:

Nope.

It's all speculation based on a few other Finnish athletes being doped. Apparently if someone with the same nationality as you dopes then by association you also did.

And I'm sure someone will reply to this post telling me I'm a dumbass and that he for sure doped. After all this is Letsrun.


Problem is between '71 and was it '84 (when Vaino got busted), the Finns suddenly came then went. And Finlands top runners were not exactly a large disparate group. Gotta wonder....
Anyway, doped or not, Viren was a one-off. It was his form that just spooked everyone, so smooth and deceptively quick when he needed to be. Notice he never seemed to be sprinting, even when he was! Read the biographies of his contemporaries and they talk of him in awe like he was from another planet.
So just what did happen in Rome '74?!
norwegian
RE: Lasse Viren Training Log Oct '71-Sep '72 11/27/2009 3:26AM - in reply to Will run for food Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
They came, because of Lydiards influence and went because they forgot what they learnt in the 80`s. Very much like the US distance runners did and soon the rest of the western world.