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Actually some of the best track media is on NYC. Many don't know but the best writers and master minds of the sport are here. The stadium on Randall's Island is capable of be expanded to hold 20K either portable seating or structual. The city would work with the MTA to develope transportation for an event of that size and has worked well. The concerts that are on the island have had over 40,000 people and getting there and off is not bad. Everyone says Eugene is track city USA but why. Because of the legend that exisit's in "Pre"? NYC probably has more large running/track and field events then anywhere else in the United States. How many events does Eugene host year round that attracts more then 3000 people with spectators and athletes. NYC off the top of my head I would have to say at least 25 that I know of and wouldn't be surprised if the real number is more like 35 or 40. I do agree that NYC needs help with marketing and getting the fans out there. I bet NYC has more track and field fans then Eugene but in Eugene track and field is huge. What else is there to do in Eugene on a Saturday night? In NYC many things get lost and I run into people all the time and say why did I see you at the Armory, Icahn, VCP...usually the answer is "I didn't know about it". Hopefully with USATF setting up offices in NYC will help greatly in increasing the participation rates and the help bring the track and field events to the events. Don'tbe surprised if Reebok this year see's 10,000+ spectators. I think NYC will take very large steps in the next 5-10 years and really do some see many impressive changes and events come to town. |
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THere is a road onto the island, its not just the pedestrian bridge. |
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They need LOTS of ferries to Icahn |
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There is a team of individuals in NYC that can run of meet of that level but it would be on them to find the support base and the marketing partners to pull it off. |
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There is a team of individuals in NYC that can run of meet of that level but it would be on them to find the support base and the marketing partners to pull it off. Who? |
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A huge advantage is that you have David Katz who is the IAAF technical rep for the USA lives 20 miles from the city in long Island, he has a crew he works with. He does the reebok, millrose, NYC marathon and also travels around the world doing meets from the OT's to the Olympics. In an event like this you woul dhave major organizations working together such as the NYC Sports Commission, the City Parks Department, and you would have 200+ volunteers from all the local college athletes in the area. NYRR would also help in area's needed. There would be the possibility of the same group that runs the reebok meet with Icahn Stadium. One of the best if not the best meet directors in the country works out of the Stadium and there is no doubt in my mind he would be able to run a highly successful event of that level. I believe he was the meet director when the USA Champs were at the Armory. There then of course is support from all different levels of marketing, hospitality, media, ect... The biggest issue for NYC is funding. |
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THere is a road onto the island, its not just the pedestrian bridge.[/quote] Only one lane entrance& egress from RFK bridge. 103 St Pedestrian Bridge only for pedestrians--hence the name pedestrian bridge. 42 million stadium costs divided by permanent 5000 seats is $8400 per seat. |
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They have many events a year that are very large and there is never a problem getting on or off the island. Itmight take 30 minutes but I think a 30 minute wait is well worth it. There is also more then one road with multiple parking areas. Depending on where you stay there are ramps onto the island and three off with an additional one being built. |
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If they were to hold it in NYC before May and before Oslo then weather is o.k. otherwise the weather sucks. Eugene has better weather in the summertime. They would just elevate the Pre Classic to GL status and it would be the same meet with more money and better athletes. |
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The biggest promotional and marketing partner in American T&F is Nike, and it's safe to assume Nike favors Eugene over NYC. |
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Yes, but isn't IAAF sponsor adidas now? I would think they would not want to be in Eugene. |
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I don't know about that. Nike's biggest interest is their wallet. Nike sponsors a strong running team in NYC, a significant Half Marathon in partnership with the NYRR, and a disastrous 10k held on Randall's Island last year, that achieved the goal of having many people sign up. The potential is much greater in NYC if marketed correctly, and who better than Nike? |
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That is true. Nike does do many events in NYC and they have many "friends" in NYC that they do work well with. I would also think that Nike would get more out of sponsoring an event in NYC then they do in Eugene. Just the population alone would be enough of a reason. As was stated before there are without a doubt more track and field/running fans in NYC then in Eugene its just making them aware of what is going on. |
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Not sure if this is a serious question. Will wait for confirmation before answering. I would love for it to be in NYC. Mostly because then I could go watch, but also because Eugene may have the best track fans in America, but the sheer numbers of NYC win out. Then again, neither Hayward Field nor Randall Island (even with expanded seating) are big enough for the size of the city to matter. |
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Just for reference, here is the capacity for each of the current GL venues: Zürich Letzigrund - 30,000 Paris Stade de France - 80,000 Berlin Olympic Stadium - 76,000 Oslo Bislett - 15,280 Rome Olympic Stadium - 82,922 Brussels Koning Boudewijn Stadion - 50,000 Others in consideration: Lausanne Olympique de la Pontaise - 15,738 Eugene Hayward Field - expandable to around 21,000 Doha Khalifa International Stadium - 50,000 Stockholm - 14,500 Beijing Oly Stadium - 80,000 Doesn't look like Hayward or an expanded Icahn would be a problem from this perspective, and with IAAF clearly wanting to enhance the sport's profile out of Europe, travel to the West Coast may not be seen as a huge hindrance if Beijing is in consideration. Getting to and from Icahn may not be horrible for drivers, but to really market to NYC, you have to make things public-transit friendly. Large concerts typically are ok on Randalls, but the buses for Reebok have been spotty. Walking back over the 125th connector is pretty damn harrowing. |
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No GL meet is held here anymore. |
| Les |
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Arguing to put on a world class track meet in New York is like arguing to put an NFL franchise in L.A. Would everyone would like it? Probably Would it be sucessful? Probably not. |
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Euro GL/GP, Adid/Pref/Reeb/USAv meets are short TV meets. Reeb & USAv have 95% Jamaicans in attendance, Reeb is humid, Pref is held in nowhere land, Adid is held on a Sunday in a heathen metropolis where track is king so everyone is at a friggin high school meet that whole weekend and not in attendance. But a 3 hr meet and 1 hr TV show can be done no problem in the humidity, a nowhere town, with no pales faces in attendance, and with no pale nor black faces in attendance. Those meets only have finals, no heats/flights, short and sweet. Any locale will do for a short meet like the GL. |