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ponytayne
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 9:58PM - in reply to Knowledge Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Knowledge wrote:

The tendon behind the achilles tendon is the soleus and your so called plantaris tendon would have something to do with the foot.

Wrong. The "achilles tendon" is made up of three tendons forming into one sheath - the tendons are from the soleus, the gastrocnemius, and the plantaris. The soleus is primarily a postural muscle and is very slow (but is quite important in ankle stabilization during activities like distance running). The gastrocnemius is the most visible muscle of the calf (the ball, the upside down heart shaped muscle, whatever you call it). And the plantaris is very small muscle (in humans anyway) that attaches up high on the tibia (behind and under the knee) and the tendon is this long spindly thing that runs down between the soleus and the gastrocnemius. The plantaris doesn't really do much in humans, but it is actually the second largest of those three muscles in rodents...like you care about that.
26mi235
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 10:08PM - in reply to ponytayne Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ponytanyne, could to post this, plus your assessment of what might have happened on the T&FNews site - thanks.


ponytayne wrote:

[quote]Knowledge wrote:

The tendon behind the achilles tendon is the soleus and your so called plantaris tendon would have something to do with the foot.

Wrong. The "achilles tendon" is made up of three tendons forming into one sheath - the tendons are from the soleus, the gastrocnemius, and the plantaris. The soleus is primarily a postural muscle and is very slow (but is quite important in ankle stabilization during activities like distance running). The gastrocnemius is the most visible muscle of the calf (the ball, the upside down heart shaped muscle, whatever you call it). And the plantaris is very small muscle (in humans anyway) that attaches up high on the tibia (behind and under the knee) and the tendon is this long spindly thing that runs down between the soleus and the gastrocnemius. The plantaris doesn't really do much in humans, but it is actually the second largest of those three muscles in rodents...like you care about that.[/quote]
TommyB
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 10:47PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I heard that someone stepped on his foot or something and he rolled his ankle badly
poorguy
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 10:48PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
poor guy, looked like he was in a lot of pain
US future hopes sad tonight
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 10:51PM - in reply to poorguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what a tragedy. let's hope that he can come back from this. he has youth on his side.
zzzz
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/24/2008 11:00PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ouch!

I hope it heals properly and doesn't become chronic. I remember reading in one of the many stories about him last year that he had some achilles injuries previously, so it might become an on-going problem.

I've had a swollen achilles myself for the past half year, and though it's relatively minor and responded to excercises, getting it completely healed seems to be a longer term thing.
sucks
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 12:18AM - in reply to zzzz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
damn I hate this. Last year I would not get on the German Band Wagon. Even after he set all the records I still wouldn't do it.

But this year the kid has shown he was the real deal, and I wanted great things to happen for him today. After hearing about what happend I was like Crap. Now after seeing the photos I feel so bad for him. No doubt in my mind he would of been 3rd this year. No doubt he would of done something speacial this track season. I really hope that he is gonna be alright and everything heals up.

I do like the post "the only way the gods could stop him" Such a Talent and this has to happen to him.. Get better German, and come back to kick some ass man
i beat him, cuz he dropped out
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 12:25AM - in reply to sucks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he fell right in front of me. i almost stepped on him as he rolled across the grass. it was startling. it looked bad. like he got shot.
badda boom booom
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 12:37AM - in reply to i beat him, cuz he dropped out Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
German has been known for trying to make injuries seem better than they really are.. last year at Arcadia he was very eager to race and tried to hide his achilles injury but his coach noticed something wrong with his stride and immediately said he wouldn't run (yea, and all you guys were making fun of him for "wimping out".. well looks like he pulled it through where it counted).

Looks like this was an ongoing problem.. best of luck German, he is definitely the best freshman and very talented and hard working. Shame on Dave Smith for even running him.. however I can understand why he would want to do that, since Vail and Barnes-Smith will be leaving next year.
webby
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 12:43AM - in reply to sucks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sucks wrote:Last year I would not get on the German Band Wagon. Even after he set all the records I still wouldn't do it. But this year the kid has shown he was the real deal . . .


It takes a lot to be the real deal in your world.
well.
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 1:58AM - in reply to Waiter at local restaurant Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Waiter at local restaurant wrote:

I was at work this afternoon when the Cowboy team stopped by our restaurant on their way to the airport. GF's ankle was wrapped up, but the limp wasn't too significant. It's probably not as serious as some people are making it out to be.


IF GF had torn his Achilles, he would have been hospitalized right now, so hopefully itīs not that serious.
trailrunner65
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 6:43AM - in reply to someguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was right there too.... what has been described is accurate from what I saw and recall.
germannnnn
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 7:27AM - in reply to vivalarepublica Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone else notice how much ground German made up prior to his injury? He was easily 10 seconds back (I haven't looked at the results yet) at about 3 miles. By the time they hit the backstretch, he was sitting at the front of the chase pack. With how he has been ifnishing races this year, there's no doubt he would've been 3rd place. What a shame.
germannnnn
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 7:42AM - in reply to germannnnn Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Small correction- "...by the time they came out of the backstretch..."
central high 1988
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 9:23AM - in reply to germannnnn Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It really is too bad.

I hope he can just get through this because there are bigger fish to fry than his first NCAA as a frosh.

- Phil Passen
much smarter than you
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 9:25AM - in reply to well. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

well. wrote:
IF GF had torn his Achilles, he would have been hospitalized right now, so hopefully itīs not that serious.


Would people without the first clue about anything please stop inserting their dumbass opinions on this injury as if they are facts?

There is no reason whatsoever that a torn Achilles would need to be managed on an inpatient basis. Now go screw yourself.
Dr.Runner
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 10:44AM - in reply to much smarter than you Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he was spiked in the back of the ankle. It wasn't a situation like Viren where he could do a role and keep running. He tried getting up and he couldn't. The guy had a freak accident and was hurt too badly to get up and you guys are all jumping on the fragile bandwagon on this board. If you weren't there then I understand you don't know what happened but my teammates and I were all there and saw it. He looked like he was in a high amount of pain and miserable. I am sure if he was able to get up he would have ASAP and got back in the race.

The pack he was in had a lot of people and they were jostling for position. The guy behind him just got a little too close. I didn't see who did it but I am sure there is video out there somewhere of him going down. It was sad to see him get drug off the course by people in front of us but he was in the middle of the course rolling around and people were jumping over and around him. It was a terrible situation that I am sure no one here would want to go through. So why give German such a hard time over something he could not prevent or fix by just getting up and running?
LetsRunOurMouths
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 3:33PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wow, good work on those photos.

If he was spiked, these photos will be perfect for our rampant, uninformed, irresponsible speculation regarding who spiked him.
halliburton
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 3:40PM - in reply to LetsRunOurMouths Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
looks like either the iona guy or even possibly his teammate!!
conspiracy theorist
RE: Anyone on here witness German's injury? Please post. 11/25/2008 4:50PM - in reply to LetsRunOurMouths Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

LetsRunOurMouths wrote:
If he was spiked, these photos will be perfect for our rampant, uninformed, irresponsible speculation regarding who spiked him.


Clearly, it was Frank Shorter who was responsible.

Luckily, he took pity on German and didn't kill him as he has done in the past.
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