Nate Jenkins at NYC marathon?

his blog, he answers everyone's questions seriously with a lot of insight on various topics

yea actually it doesn't answer as to why he ran like shit today

I don't have the time or inclination to wade all through a blog to figure out what his h.s. and college pr's might be. He doesn't have a concise bio posted somewhere?

easy to go from soft surface to hard surface but not the other way around

I saw Nate at the 11th mile mark and he was clearly in pain. I am very impressed with the kind of toughness it must have taken to continue like that for another 15 miles.

Yeah, but did he faint at the finish?

Nate needs to solve his bio-mechanical problems. Just about everyone I know who has run sustained high-mileage has had trouble with their hamstring/hip/back. Even top guys. I don't know why this should be, but if he's serious he needs to get aggressive about this problem. Among those who train hard , what separates those who run fast from those who don't is that those who do run fast don't incur or are able to fix hip/hamstring problems.

If you're reading this, Nate, you may need to try other things -even exotic things. Or, maybe you need to hit the non-exotic remedies really really hard; hit them as hard as you do your actual running. This could mean doing AIS stretching 6 hours/day. Or finding a high-quality ART therapist. Or getting rolfed....who knows? But you need to get aggressive!

I believe that anyone who trains as hard and smart as Nate does should be running under 2:10 if they stay free of injuries which limit their efficiency: yes, anyone. Nate could take even one year in which he focuses primarily on straightening out his body; he'd still be just 29 or 30.

Tough? Or stubborn? It's a hard decision to drop out, especially when you've got "something to prove," but if you're hurting and slowing down at 11 miles in a 26 mile race, it may be time to call it a day.Look, the guy is a professional runner. This is his job. Every mile he struggles through the injury is just delaying his recovery time that much more. He didn't make any money from this race, and thanks to this injury he won't make any money in the near future.

Seidel wrote:

I saw Nate at the 11th mile mark and he was clearly in pain. I am very impressed with the kind of toughness it must have taken to continue like that for another 15 miles.

of course he is tough--and he always looks in pain but elite he is not and today proved it--

he needs to increase his mileage to 250 a week and then things will work out

Now might be the time to re-consider contacting the Hansons Program, especially with Clint Verran's PT practice. Just a guess, but the Saucony deal he has and the extra $4k in grant money are minimal to what he can achieve with the Rochester Hills, MI lads.

runbird wrote:

Now might be the time to re-consider contacting the Hansons Program, especially with Clint Verran's PT practice. Just a guess, but the Saucony deal he has and the extra $4k in grant money are minimal to what he can achieve with the Rochester Hills, MI lads.

Why re-consider? Did he turn down the Hansons?

Nate carries a lot of weight, that might be part or the issue.

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2008/nycmarathon/imagepages/image41.php

did you read what he wrote? He said re-consider contacting them, meaning he has yet to consider contacting them.

the scorekeeper wrote:

runbird wrote:

Now might be the time to re-consider contacting the Hansons Program, especially with Clint Verran's PT practice. Just a guess, but the Saucony deal he has and the extra $4k in grant money are minimal to what he can achieve with the Rochester Hills, MI lads.

Why re-consider? Did he turn down the Hansons?

not from the east coast wrote:

I don't have the time or inclination to wade all through a blog to figure out what his h.s. and college pr's might be. He doesn't have a concise bio posted somewhere?

I don't know, why don't you spend two minutes yourself looking it up? Post back when you find something useful. Thanks.

Nate's problem is that his body was just never built to handle the mileage. Sell is insanely talented in that he can handle the kind of mileage guys like Bedford used to do. Nate has done way beyond any expectation, but to think he will run 2.10 is insane. He simply does not possess the talent, and no amount of determination will change that. I once talked to a world class runner who said something I will never forget. He said something along the lines of: "Your body is only meant to go so fast. If you reach that point, and can understand and accept that you are there, it is a very special thing. When I was in top form, I knew that my body couldn't go faster without drugs."

runbird wrote:

Now might be the time to re-consider contacting the Hansons Program, especially with Clint Verran's PT practice. Just a guess, but the Saucony deal he has and the extra $4k in grant money are minimal to what he can achieve with the Rochester Hills, MI lads.

the "lads" at the Hansons would break out in hives if Jenkins joined and then told them he was doing a good chunk of his mileage at 7:30-8:00 pace (or slower), which is part of what got him to the level he has attained. They don't believe in slow easy recovery running and he does. He's said as much in his blog in responding to a comment that asked him about this very idea.

[quote]not from the east coast wrote:

I don't know, because I figured all his fans here would have that info readily accessible? I'm simply curious and figured those singing his praises could help. Post back when you're off the rag. No thanks to you, cuntface. [quote]

wow, another letsrun asshole

Well, I have a meeting this afternoon but after that I will write up a detailed biography of Nate Jenkins for the stranger on the internet angrily demanding it.