36 pts. 3, 4, 5. Pretty sick..
36 pts. 3, 4, 5. Pretty sick..
Washington women average 20:21 in blue race. In the white race the second place individual, Nicole Edwards of Michigan, had a time of 20:21. Yeah, pretty sick.
6 UW women in before Stanford's #1. Yikes!!!
Yea, that's pretty good. I'm a believer.
1. Washington
2. Oregon
at nationals!!
uhh, the only way they loose nats is if they choke...GO DAWGS
Or if there is a stress fracture outbreak.
What did the Oregon women + Grelli + Scherf + Bridgemon run at NCAA Nats last year?
Nicole Blood - 20:17.6
Alexandra Kosinski - 20:33.3
Zoe Buckman - 21:05.9
Bria Wetsch - 21:23.7
Zoe Nelson - 21:47.1
Melissa Grelli - 20:19.6
Lindsey Scherf - 20:42.2 (in 2005)
Mattie Bridgmon - 21:16.3
Damn.
After all the talk about Oregon being supreme, I think Washington has this.. unless Oregon is improving a lot as well , we just haven't seen them much.
wow! washington women are ridiculous. Oregon women are probably shocked right now...not to mention scared...
Oregon women last year:
Nicole Blood - 20:17.6
Alexandra Kosinski - 20:33.3
Zoe Buckman - 21:05.9
Bria Wetsch - 21:23.7
Zoe Nelson - 21:47.1
Melissa Grelli - 20:19.6
Lindsey Scherf - 20:42.2 (in 2005)
Mattie Bridgmon - 21:16.3
Washington women this year:
Kendra Schaaf - 20:14.7
Christine babcock - 20:15.2
Marie Lawrence - 20:17.8
Katie Follett - 20:20.3
Anita Campbell - 20:37.7
Lauren Saylor - 20:56
Kailey Campbbell - 21:17
Talk about total domination.
wow! washington women are ridiculous. Oregon women are probably shocked right now...not to mention scared...
Oregon women last year:
Nicole Blood - 20:17.6
Alexandra Kosinski - 20:33.3
Zoe Buckman - 21:05.9
Bria Wetsch - 21:23.7
Zoe Nelson - 21:47.1
Melissa Grelli - 20:19.6
Lindsey Scherf - 20:42.2 (in 2005)
Mattie Bridgmon - 21:16.3
Washington women this year:
Kendra Schaaf - 20:14.7
Christine babcock - 20:15.2
Marie Lawrence - 20:17.8
Katie Follett - 20:20.3
Anita Campbell - 20:37.7
Lauren Saylor - 20:56
Kailey Campbbell - 21:17
Talk about total domination.
Up until today, I thought Oregon was still on top. Now I think Washington is the favorite. However, you can't compare times from two different races and two different years straight across as a sign of complete domination.
It depends on who can "pack run" better at Nationals (AND toe the line with enough healthy girls).
You're right, totally different days of racing. Looking forward to reading about what happens in the next couple of weeks at the conference championships (Pac 10's) and regional championships.
These are the race paces ran by UW at the Oct 18 Pre-nats and by UO at the Oct 4 Dellinger meet.
Schaaf 5:26 ______ Kosinski 5:27
Babcock 5:26 _____ Grelli 5:27
Lawrence 5:27 ____ Blood 5:33
Follett 5:27 _____ Scherf 5:40 to 5:34
Campbell 5:32 ____ Bridgmon 5:36
Saylor 5:37 ______ Buckman 5:44 to 5:37
The second race pace for Scherf & Buckman was at the Oct 18 Mike Hodges Inv. on a shorter 5K course. Their above pace was increased by a factor of 1.013, or 4 seconds, to adjust for the shorter course (factor based on age-graded tables).
Right now it appears the UW has the strongest team. But UO’s Scherf has raced only once in 2½ years (foot injury) and isn’t yet race sharp. She has the team’s best PRs at 5k/10k and ran workouts equal/better than her top teammates UO’s preseason camp. So if not by PAC-10s, then by Nats, Scherf should be able to get back to performing as she did 3 years ago (20:15/5:26pace at ’05 Pre-Nats).
UO’s Blood also needs to step it up a little. I heard she has been taking her training/racing a little easy to avoid a summer injury from recurring. She ran 20:18 (5:27 pace) at ’07 Nats, and if she doesn’t have an injury problem, she should be able to run that time again. She may try not to peak until Nats. With expected improvements from Blood and Scherf, that leaves the top-4 of these two teams almost identical in performance.
UO appears still has the edge with a slightly faster 5th runner, but UW has two runners that are nearly equal for 5th place. One of the two might step it up to be equal to Campbell (UW’s 5th runner).
Right now UW appears to have the edge. But all it will take is for one runner on either team to have a bad race and the other team should win. Also, we have seen UO’s top runners in only one moderately competitive race so far this year. That is not really enough to see where UO’s runners are at. The Pre-Nats course may be slower than Dellinger, but at Dellinger, UO’s top runners may not have pushed themselves as hard as they easily won by 10 seconds. From meet to meet, UW’s times seem to be about the same (very fast) but not improving.
Expect the Oct 31 PAC-10s (at UO) to be a close battle. At Regionals both teams may hold back some to avoid being too tired for Nats. Whichever team wins PAC-10s isn’t necessarily going to win Nats. But the National Championship will clearly go to UW or UO as it is now apparent that the #3, #4 & #5 ranked teams (Florida St, Princeton, Villanova) are not at UW’s or UO’s level.
If just one top-5 team member from UW or UO has a bad race at Nats, that will likely decide who wins. UW’s top two runners have never been to Nats before. Will the pressure affect their performance? UW’s top-5 have all been to Nats twice except for Kosinski (once). This race should be too close to predict -- unless UO or UW has a top runner injured before Nats.
Melissa Grelli is no Arthur Fonzeralli.
Below is what the women who didn't go to pre-nats ran at home in Seattle at the Cascade Conference Preview. Add to that the fact that Miller and Turner ran 3K of this race in 9-mids. Gross
1 Patrick, Kenna Washington 17:16.68
2 Huber, Mo U-Washington X17:21.47
3 Schutte, Bailey Washington 17:29.36
4 McGuirk, Adrienne U-Washington X17:30.44
5 Anderson, Brooke Washington 17:31.70
6 Hansen, Katie Seattle U. 17:33.84 1
7 Carlyle, Laura Whatcom CC 17:59.74 2
8 Michels, Linsie Concordia (Ore.) 18:09.06 3
9 Scheese, Andria Concordia (Ore.) 18:15.67 4
10 Reeve, Sabrina British Columbia 18:16.31 5
Wow.
I thought Oregon was the favorite but UW is running really, really welll....
The course is short. Everyone faster than their 5k pr's. They are talented yes, but not as tough as those marks make it seem.
Seems like Washington likes to run on short courses.