Illegal immigrants, primarily from Mexico and other Latin American countries, don't have higher crime rates

I forgot to mention this, but I do realize that "other" also includes non-hispanics such as Native Americans, Arabs, and Alaskan Eskimos. However, the Hispanic population in America is far greater than the Native American, Arab, and Alaskan Eskimo population combined, so the "other" group is a pretty accurate representation of Hispanics.

pacman wrote:I forgot to mention this, but I do realize that "other" also includes non-hispanics such as Native Americans, Arabs, and Alaskan Eskimos. However, the Hispanic population in America is far greater than the Native American, Arab, and Alaskan Eskimo population combined, so the "other" group is a pretty accurate representation of Hispanics.

you tell that to the relatives of someone killed by an illegal immigarant who NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE in the the firt place. We have enough of our own criminals. We don't need criminals, illegally here from other countries.

What you linked to simply showed that "others" have a lower rate of committing crimes than do blacks. It said nothing about illegal immigrants or hispanics or anything. With only a cursory glance I can't even tell if they consider hispanics white or not. When "other" includes Asians, Indians, and the rest it completely skews your point. Then, of course, you have the fact they didn't mention if they were in the US legally or not.

So essentially you didn't prove what you said you did.

jorvack wrote:

umm...and Asians.

The Asian population is far smaller than the Hispanic population.

Where does that say anything at all about ILLEGAL immigrants? OTHER does not include hispanics. Hispanics are included in the DOJ stats for whites.

AN example from a NYC study shows that Hispanics commit 17.7 adult crimes per 1000 population, blacks 28.8 and whites 4.2

http://eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/34/91/8b.pdf

http://www.isteve.com/Crime_Imprisonment_Rates_by_Race.htm

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/cvict_v.htm

Mtn Dew wrote:

What you linked to simply showed that "others" have a lower rate of committing crimes than do blacks. It said nothing about illegal immigrants or hispanics or anything.

I admit that I may have been wrong about the legal status of people in "other", but it does appear that Hispanics, both legal and illegal, do have a similar or slightly lower crime rate than whites. The Indian, Asian, and Arab population combined is much lower than the Hispanic population, so the crime rate of the "other" group is very similar to the crime rate of Hispanics, both legal and illegal.

pacman wrote:

I forgot to mention this, but I do realize that "other" also includes non-hispanics such as Native Americans, Arabs, and Alaskan Eskimos. However, the Hispanic population in America is far greater than the Native American, Arab, and Alaskan Eskimo population combined, so the "other" group is a pretty accurate representation of Hispanics.

You are wrong. Hispanics are included in the white column in those Department of Justice statistics.

pacman wrote:

I admit that I may have been wrong about the legal status of people in "other", but it does appear that Hispanics, both legal and illegal, do have a similar or slightly lower crime rate than whites. The Indian, Asian, and Arab population combined is much lower than the Hispanic population, so the crime rate of the "other" group is very similar to the crime rate of Hispanics, both legal and illegal.

I can't agree with that either. Hispanics, legal and illegal, tend to commit crimes at a higher rate than whites, at least from the data I've seen. Asians tend to commit crimes at the lowest rates, depending on how they define "Asian".

You are wrong.

Look at table 2, here:

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/fuzzy.htm

Latinos are almost 4 times as likely as whites to be criminals.

100% of *illegal* immigrants commit crimes

cherry pickin kick ass wrote:

you tell that to the relatives of someone killed by an illegal immigarant who NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE in the the firt place. We have enough of our own criminals. We don't need criminals, illegally here from other countries.

I doubt the relatives of a muder victim are gonna care whether the the murderer was legal or not.

There not gonna say, "What happened to our son is tragic. But we find consolance in the fact that the murderer was legal and DESERVED TO BE IN THE COUNTRY in the first place."

Or is your point that the murder would never have happened if the illegal person was not in the country? But by that same logic, legal people commit murder as well. So if all the legal people were kicked out, thier son would still be alive. I do not understand what would drive you to believe that there is a difference in the rights of legal an illegal murderers.

Poblosan wrote:

[quote]cherry pickin kick ass wrote:

you tell that to the relatives of someone killed by an illegal immigarant who NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE in the the firt place. We have enough of our own criminals. We don't need criminals, illegally here from other countries.

I doubt the relatives of a muder victim are gonna care whether the the murderer was legal or not.

There not gonna say, "What happened to our son is tragic. But we find consolance in the fact that the murderer was legal and DESERVED TO BE IN THE COUNTRY in the first place."

Or is your point that the murder would never have happened if the illegal person was not in the country?

exactly. it is a murder that NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if we enforced our immigration laws that are already on the books.

yea guys.. No Offense but the first people in this country were Native Americans. Mexicans were already here and ALSO had there land stolen from them by the WHITE people.

Not also to forget, some of the first whites in this country were sent here by punishment by the Government of england. Thats how their criminals were punished,..They were sent to the Americas.

And sure illegals do kill people, but not as much as good ole average american citizens.John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson.

Get the point.

problem wont get solved by putting the blame on immigration.

bluewave wrote:

yea guys.. No Offense but the first people in this country were Native Americans. Mexicans were already here and ALSO had there land stolen from them by the WHITE people.

Not also to forget, some of the first whites in this country were sent here by punishment by the Government of england. Thats how their criminals were punished,..They were sent to the Americas.

So ignorant.... do we have schools anymore?

can Mexico EVER get their act together, so as to have a decent country with decent jobs and a higher standard of living, so the bottom of the barrel residents don't feel the need to escape and illegally enter the United States? That country, their politicians and the corrupt ways of doing business have doomed that country for 300 years. Will it ever end?

From my decades of coaching, I have found Afro-Americans and Africans have a much higher sense of honor and competitiveness than others. They work 100x as harder in athletics, and in their studies, carry their heads high, with pride and humility. I think that the high expectations of honor that is inherent in the African blood in general often times gets out of control in African non-athletes, and manifests itself into honor killings, and retribution over petty insults and such.

can they get their act togethr wrote:

can Mexico EVER get their act together, so as to have a decent country with decent jobs and a higher standard of living, so the bottom of the barrel residents don't feel the need to escape and illegally enter the United States? That country, their politicians and the corrupt ways of doing business have doomed that country for 300 years. Will it ever end?

Mexico has only existed for 180 years you dufus. Stop getting your information from wikipedia. And if you really want to see a country that cannot get thier act together, just take a stroll through the USA. Go down to places like Masons Bend, Alabama, where kids are still dying from diarrea because they cannot afford a doctor and doctors refuse to work anywhere near there. Go to places like Henderson, Tenessee,where my friend and national class athlete says he gets called a n***** on a weekly basis.

Or go to Washington DC, the city that gave the world crack cocaine. And shit, as far as crooked politicians dooming their country, they don't come any more crooked or dooming than Dick Chaney.

bluewave wrote:

And sure illegals do kill people, but not as much as good ole average american citizens.John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson.

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NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if we didnt allow white people in.