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RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 12:04AM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Read the fourth post of this thread. This kid ran as a 20 year old on at least 8 different occasions.

When a local newspaper offered to clear his name if he just showed them his passport he refused.
no 1500
Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 7:19AM - in reply to a real coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Exactly, you do not know all of the info so stop trying to act like you do. If you are a coach and an adult then I hope you are wise and mature enough not to believe everything you hear or read in the newspaper. Worse yet, I hope you do not believe everthing written on the internet. He has no obligation to clear anything up with any of you. Continue the crying all you want. It has now become humorous because all of those attempting to harm him are starting to look like fools. He either will be eligible to run Division I in college or not and it will be based on his test scores. I believe that we will eventually see him at a strong running school if not next year.
missing the point
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 8:56AM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In my book he is still a liar! It doesn't really matter if it were on the entry forms or if it is running for his high school. Surely you just can't discount him traveling all over the world competeing and then suddenly he remembers he's two years younger because of a calender mishap. If all it takes is a document from a government with questionable ethics we may never know how old Solomon truly is. You claim he is being falsely incriminated but he is the one who wrote his own age. People have a right to question his integrity...he has lied before! The fact that we can't prove it does not change the fact that he has lied in the past. Either way he has tarnished his own reputation. If he is truly 18 he was obviously smart enough to lie so he could travel and compete where he wanted. If he lied in such a small area as this why would someone not think he is lying now to obtain even a greater prize. When he gets to college it will not matter anymore but I think it is a sad case right now.
ChiTown Hustler
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 9:14AM - in reply to no 1500 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

no 1500 wrote:

.........and your lame asses will be typing away on letsrun. Boohoo!


I guess you're a lame ass.
jkl;
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 9:26AM - in reply to ChiTown Hustler Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
good one! People say we can't believe what we read on the internet or in the papers but who wrote down his age on the entry forms? Solomon may very well be 18 years old but he shouldn't have lied on his entry forms. Because Solomon has lied on his entry forms it makes everything after that fact questionable. Remember, the only reason this thread was even started was because someone found out his other assumed identity. There is nothing wrong with you supporting him. You must admit he was wrong for lying in the first place or this mess would not even have started.
Frankie Rocks
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 10:17AM - in reply to jkl; Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Very late to this thread. Does he meet NCAA eligibility criteria?
jkl;
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 10:24AM - in reply to Frankie Rocks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If the document he produced was acceptable for HS competetion he should be eligible for NCAA. I'm sure he has to meet the academic requirements. Solomon would be a good catch for any college program. I just think the problem people are having is that he may need to be competeing at that level already depending his true age. In the end it will not matter I guess but indoor and outdoor season should be interesting. I don't think he will be touched by anyone on the high school level this year.
a real coach
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 12:17PM - in reply to no 1500 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

no 1500 wrote:

Exactly, you do not know all of the info so stop trying to act like you do. If you are a coach and an adult then I hope you are wise and mature enough not to believe everything you hear or read in the newspaper. Worse yet, I hope you do not believe everthing written on the internet. He has no obligation to clear anything up with any of you. Continue the crying all you want. It has now become humorous because all of those attempting to harm him are starting to look like fools. He either will be eligible to run Division I in college or not and it will be based on his test scores. I believe that we will eventually see him at a strong running school if not next year.


Once again, what more info is needed? He provided all the info. He said he was looking for an agent. He said he provided a 1987 birth date. He changed his name when he went to high school. H provided two different stories about why he suddenly got three years younger. He even said he was frustrated by the internet suspicion. Well, it's still here old man. Criminals get away with things. Con artists are successful. I understand that. I just hope that some negative publicity will keep every aspiring pro 20 year old from abandoning the road circuit and joining a local high school team. This is a trend that would suck if it caught on.
reading is essential
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 12:44PM - in reply to a real coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I agree with the previous poster, a real coach. Solomon provided all of his own info...more than once. No one forced his hand in doing so and now he is frustated with the internet suspicion. He should be frustrated because this is what happens when you are caught in a lie. He either lied then or he is lying now. Anyway you look at it Solomon has not been truthful. I have no doubt he is well spoken but I have come across some very well spoken liars...I think this is why they are so convincing. If the young man is 18 I feel sorry for him for making himself the center of so much controversy.

Solomon may not have to prove anything to anyone but the school he is attneding or will be attending but he has made himself look like a liar.

There is one good thing that can come from this. Hopefully some other foreigner will think twice about trying to pull a Solomon. I'm glad people questioned his eligibility. I can't even imaging how bad this situation could snowball into for high school competition if people thought they could get away with it.
Pappy
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/8/2009 2:42PM - in reply to Joseph Nzau Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That's it! I'm going back to high school. Its where all of the best ass is anyway.

http://dailyyeah.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ht_runner1_080305_ms.jpg
baffles me
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/9/2009 1:32PM - in reply to Pappy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Halie says that the reason he said he was 20 years old in the first place was so he could enter races on his own, correct? Why did he just lie and say he was 18? At 18 aren't you considered legal or am I missing something?
shortshorts
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/9/2009 1:46PM - in reply to baffles me Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes. Yes he probably is.
SoloAMan
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/9/2009 3:21PM - in reply to shortshorts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Solomon is a piece of crap!
stupidquestion
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 12:46AM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How can anyone 'prove' he's overage if he isn't legally required to show any real documents, i.e. passport?
Also, to all of you who say 'innocent until proven guilty', there's a difference between a legal court that's allowed to subpoena documents and witnesses (e.g. the papers he used to immigrate here)and a school that's not allowed to ask for foolproof documents.
Also, Solomon was quoted as saying that "his name has been destroyed." At the same time he has done nothing to resolve the issue other than coming up with one explanation stranger than another -- why doesn't he show the passport he used to enter the country? Page 1 is enough (nobody cares about his visa).
morequestions
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 12:57AM - in reply to jkl; Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jkl; wrote:

If the document he produced was acceptable for HS competetion he should be eligible for NCAA. I'm sure he has to meet the academic requirements.


It'll be interesting to see what happens because you need to have a valid visa and valid passport to enroll in college as a foreigner. Also, wouldn't his passport be in the name of Semunguse, his official Ethiopian name? BTW, if his Ethiopian birth certificate, too, is presumably in his official name, Semunguse, aren't his transcripts, etc. also going to be in that name?
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RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 2:01AM - in reply to morequestions Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
GET A LIFE. Leave the guy alone. You all sound like pathetic loosers with your speculations and your conspiracy theories. Don't you guys have some better things to discuss? It really is sad. This subject has been talked about so much that it got old 3 months ago. Move on, he won the national championship. He has been CLEARED to run by the proper authorities. He does not need to prove anything to anybody else, especially NOT you guys. Get a life seriously. This is pathetic.
bob m
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 2:35AM - in reply to ----- Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It seems like all of the Halie defenders simply say "get a life, leave this guy alone,etc" but don't answer the questions that us, the people who believe Halie is 21, are asking. So no I will not leave this kid alone and I will continue to ask the questions that should be asked un till Solomon shows his passport,admits hes a liar and overage, or is simply caught for the crook I believe he is. The reason I do this is because I do not want this kind of thing where a foreigner changes his name and age and comes into this country to dominate the high school racing scene and get a college scholarship, it's not fair to the young men/ young women who are playing by the rules. So once again I will ask the questions that need to be asked.

- Why did you claim you were 20 years old before but now your 18? He did this on at least 8 different occasions

-Solomon has said "his name is ruined" because of this whole age issue. Why not show the pass port and clear his "good name". He brought this issue upon himself by lying at one point or just being very careless when doing simple arithmetic.

- Solomon has said that he was 20 because he wanted to enter road races by himself. Why not just say you were 18 which would make you "legal".

- Why did his story change from "the calender in Ethopia is different" and thats where the age issues came from to that he just miscounted the years (I find it highly unlikely that he miscounted by that much that many times)
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RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 3:44AM - in reply to bob m Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you were the authorities, then you would have the right to demand to see his documents. But you are NOT. You are a nobody and should not be demanding anything. He already showed all the proper documentation to the Maryland authorities and he was CLEARED. I believe they said he "passed with flying colors" THEY (you know, the people in charge) are satisfied. It's done. There is no issue anymore. You can continue to entertain yourself with your theories, but it's only making you look like a little high school girl who can't get enough of the gossip. This really is sad and pathetic. Get over it, it's last year's news, let it go bud. Really, GET A LIFE, no, I mean really...
bob m
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 4:20AM - in reply to ----- Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So because I'm not a "authority figure" I can't question things? The world would be a much worse place in my opinion if only the people in charge could question weither something is right or wrong. The state of Maryland is not God and can make mistakes, overlook things, and fold under the pressure of political correctness. Contrary to what you may think it's not only me posting on this thread, theres a reason why this thread has been around for so long, many people in the running community still see this as an issue.

So in conclusion bud, once again I will not let it go. Really, I will keep asking questions and try my damndest to not let this issue die. No, I mean really I will not let this issue die.
yawnster
RE: Is Solomon Haile really 20 years old? 1/10/2009 6:00AM - in reply to bob m Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Keep fighting the good fight, bob m. I don't know what the truth is here, but something definitely smells SOMEWHERE.


bob m wrote:

So in conclusion bud, once again I will not let it go. Really, I will keep asking questions and try my damndest to not let this issue die. No, I mean really I will not let this issue die.
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