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McDougle DNF
McDougle DNF 5/16/2008 8:14PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Whats the story. Why the dnf tonight?
gomikeoh
RE: McDougle DNF 5/16/2008 8:49PM - in reply to McDougle DNF Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
on his facebook couple days ago, i think it said he had the flu or something.

what a shame, hope he gets better.
no place for a fast time
RE: McDougle DNF 5/16/2008 9:18PM - in reply to gomikeoh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think he wanted a fast time. He went out way ahead of the field but was off of his pace early because of cold, wet conditions (50s and misty rain). When a good time was no longer in the picture his coach probably made the decision to pull him and save his energy (especially if he had been sick).
uh_no
RE: McDougle DNF 5/16/2008 9:31PM - in reply to McDougle DNF Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
McDougal?

try spelling
shameless plug
RE: McDougle DNF 5/16/2008 11:50PM - in reply to uh_no Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There is a brief recap here with video. 9 laps in McDougal dropped out.

http://www.letsrun.com/2008/mcd0516.php
Harmony
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 5:06AM - in reply to shameless plug Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Watch the last 200m before he drops out. You can see his right leg is cleary shutting down, in his back phase you can see his leg is kicking out. poor guy
21questions
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 7:12AM - in reply to Harmony Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
are other videos being posted? (looking for seeded mens steeple)
Sagarin
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 10:13AM - in reply to 21questions Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why is the guy even still running? Incredible, these coaches, I tell ya. The injury cycle... once it starts, it's almost impossible to break out of. It takes very shrewd coaching and a lot more rest and patience than any of these athletes have.
Harmony
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 10:36AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah but this isn't a injury, he feels no pain. I am sure he is trying a bunch of different things and seeing just about every PT, chiro ect. Soon he will figure it out and when he does I wouldn't want to race him because this period is going to make him fired up for the future.
Ticktock
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 10:52AM - in reply to Harmony Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
everyone always visits the pt, chiro etc. and they never make a miraculous recovery.
Sagarin
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 11:01AM - in reply to Harmony Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Harmony wrote:

Yeah but this isn't a injury, he feels no pain. I am sure he is trying a bunch of different things and seeing just about every PT, chiro ect. Soon he will figure it out and when he does I wouldn't want to race him because this period is going to make him fired up for the future.


Make no mistake about it. This IS an injury, a maladaptive response to overtraining. I ran with a guy in college who was an exceptional prep runner, but never achieved anything near his potential in college because he had a firing "issue" with his calf. It was an insidious injury, never bad enough to keep him from training, but never good enough to allow him to go to the well. He was an extremely high mileage guy in high school, ran some good times, but could never get out of the entrapment. Of course, he never took any significant downtime either. I hope McDougal doesn't go down the same path. Ahhh yes, the injury cycle...
justintherunner
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 12:10PM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What exactly is his injury?
fruitsnacks
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 1:34PM - in reply to justintherunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.flocasts.org/flotrack/speakers.php?sid=89&vid=14544



justintherunner wrote:

What exactly is his injury?
malmo
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 1:43PM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin wrote:

Make no mistake about it. This IS an injury, a maladaptive response to overtraining.


You're kidding yourself if you believe this. Injury is a normal risk associated with athletic training. It happens. Some runners are more injury prone, some are not. McDougal definitely falls in the 'not prone' category.
malmo
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 1:53PM - in reply to fruitsnacks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
fruitsnacks wrote:

http://www.flocasts.org/flotrack/speakers.php?sid=89&vid=14544



Sounds like textbook sciatica to me; weakness in one leg, with the feeling of no power or coordination. The next step is a dull nonspecific pain and the perception of "coldness" and chronic tightness in the hips. From personal experience, I doubt he can "work his way" through this one.
tight clothes
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 2:01PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
are the cause of sciatica
Sagarin
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 2:09PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo wrote:

You're kidding yourself if you believe this. Injury is a normal risk associated with athletic training. It happens. Some runners are more injury prone, some are not. McDougal definitely falls in the 'not prone' category.


In his case, we'll see. Either way, the guy needs to be resting. Injuries are always a risk, yes, but nothing about any injury is "normal." Injuries are caused by overtraining or maladaptation.
fruitsnacks
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 4:19PM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
maladaptation.[/quote]

explain?
Mr Semi
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 4:35PM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sagarin wrote:

[quote]malmo wrote:

You're kidding yourself if you believe this. Injury is a normal risk associated with athletic training. It happens. Some runners are more injury prone, some are not. McDougal definitely falls in the 'not prone' category.


In his case, we'll see. Either way, the guy needs to be resting. Injuries are always a risk, yes, but nothing about any injury is "normal." Injuries are caused by overtraining or maladaptation.[/quote]

Your a gimp.

Getting injured is a risk to take when you wana perform !
Sagarin
RE: McDougle DNF 5/17/2008 6:56PM - in reply to Mr Semi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks for mastering the obvious. The point is, why is he still training and trying to run at a high level? Kind of like, why is injury-prone Ritz racing in January/February after his trials effort two months prior? Stupid.
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