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good job field events and the lone hurdler and i'm not being facetious
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good job field events and the lone hurdler and i'm not being facetious
Don't make fun of brown men, it's not nice.
I don't know how you can say that. Brown men are clearly superior to white men in many events.
what's funny is that as all these Brown alums coming on here and trashing the coach all that's happening is they are scaring away any recruit the coach could actually get. They are just making it worse.
bobby brown. wrote:
what's funny is that as all these Brown alums coming on here and trashing the coach all that's happening is they are scaring away any recruit the coach could actually get. They are just making it worse.
Yes, you are correct. Then when the team performs terrible for another 2 or 3 years, the coach gets canned (maybe less if enough stink is made). So, I think they know what they're doing.
Note: I'm saying nothing of Coach Lake's ability.
You really think that they are thinking that far ahead?
Brown Men's results since 2000:
2000 7
2001 4
2002 7
2003 4
2004 5
2005 6
2006 3* first year of lake
2007 7
2007 6
Hate to break it to you guys but things haven't gotten worse with Lake at the helm. I know men are intimidated by powerful women but deal with it.
Women:
2000 1
2001 1
2002 2
2003 4
2004 2
2005 3
2006 3*
2007 3
2008 3
The women are doing just as they did previously. Even with you all out trashing your program everytime you get and Princeton learning how to leverage its name for the first time in recruiting. You're not beating Cornell (no one does) and princeton is getting top 10 recruiting classes every year so forget about beating them. Third is about as good as you're going to do.
Congrats to the Brown women.
Just for the record, Brown used to beat Cornell on the women's side fairly regularly - they won 4 Heps titles in a row 1998-2001. This isn't that long ago.
lake sucks.
Of course they do, they're smart right? Nah, I was just playing devils advocate. But, that's probably going to be the outcome if they keep it up.
Who gives a shit, it's heps. You get 8 schools pumped up and peaking for what is basically the JV of division 1 sports. An SEC or Big East B team could train through and win heps on a bad day with a couple of injuries.
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Who gives a shit, it's heps. You get 8 schools pumped up and peaking for what is basically the JV of division 1 sports. An SEC or Big East B team could train through and win heps on a bad day with a couple of injuries.
In your dreams, based on performances at the respective conference meets ND, the Big East Champs, would have finished in 3rd in the Heps, ~30 points behind PU, Cornell would have doubled ND's point score!
I'll refer you to the Big East/Ivy Challenge Meet a few years ago that the Ivies won.
Tigerfan wrote:
In your dreams, based on performances at the respective conference meets ND, the Big East Champs, would have finished in 3rd in the Heps, ~30 points behind PU, Cornell would have doubled ND's point score!
That's some of the most flawed logic I've ever read. Check out the performance lists for yourself...
Ivy..
http://www.directathletics.com/lists/track/55_350.htmlVS a much superior Big East..
http://www.directathletics.com/lists/track/58_355.htmlBig East's performance list includes indoor performances as well as outdoor performances.
DFSa wrote:
Tigerfan wrote:In your dreams, based on performances at the respective conference meets ND, the Big East Champs, would have finished in 3rd in the Heps, ~30 points behind PU, Cornell would have doubled ND's point score!
That's some of the most flawed logic I've ever read. Check out the performance lists for yourself...
Check out the results on the day, the best team in the Big East finishes 3rd as I said. Comparing the performance lists is flawed logic because with twice as many teams you'd expect a better list over all. However the best team from the BE isn't in the same league performance-wise as the best two from the Ivies, Cornell and Princeton. The original claim was that any any BE 'B' team could train through and win Heps, whereas their best team on their game would only make third!
Brown men in freefall with weights on their ankles are still not falling half as fast as Dartmouth Women's Distance program....
At some point SOMEBODY has to pucker up and kiss the ass of a bad decision. The program can surely only trot out the "minority hire who happens to be an alum" rationalization.
Unless of course, and this is increasingly looking like the case, there is nobody in the big green organization who cares.
Dartmouth has a Women's Distance program? I thought they got cut a couple years ago.
Who's this minority coach you refer to?
So, are you saying that Cornell and Princeton have better programs that ND?
in 2005 (year before the new coach), from the 800 to the 10k, at heps, the brown men scored...
5k:
4. Owen Washburn (Brown), 14:33.28
10k:
1. Pat Tarpy (Brown), 30:37.39
5. Chris Burke (Brown), 31:03.48
=16 points (if i know the right scoring system?)
in 2008:
5k:
5. Hardy, Duriel, SO Brown 14:43.15
10k:
6. Zamir, Ari SR Brown 30:38.62
Steeple:
1. Myers, Ozzie SR Brown 9:08.72
=13 points
pretty similar, anyway. i don't see the support of a huge decline in brown's men's distance running based on outdoor heps results, at least. any other defense?