Should these individuals be considered male or 'progressive'? I always got the feeling that they were effeminate, but wanted to know what others thought.
Society was based on wives having their husbands name and children their fathers.
Should these individuals be considered male or 'progressive'? I always got the feeling that they were effeminate, but wanted to know what others thought.
Society was based on wives having their husbands name and children their fathers.
I consider myself to be a fair and sophisticated 21st century man. But thats where I draw the line.
I don't actually know of such men
Honestly I don't give a **** what other people do in pursuit of happiness. For what it's worth, John Lennon changed his middle name to Ono when he married Yoko, and I think that is pretty cool. Of course that's not his last name, but still. Whatever makes people happy.
HOMO's!
if you have a really sucky last name and the wife has a really cool last name that would sound awesome with your name....i wouldnt look down on it.
Know a few NYC types that do that. All are very unathletic/border line gay.
Know a few NYC types that do that. All are very unathletic/border line gay.
Never known a guy who did that. I know a few where both parts of the couple took a hyphenated or double last name, combining both of them. I know of one couple where both the man and woman took a new last name (which was made up of parts of both of their last names).
...need to harden the f*** up.
A decade or so ago I remember seeing Ed Sheehan on a local PBS show in Boston just before the marathon, and he had his wife's surname hyphenated onto his own. Ed was a sub 2:14 marathoner, coached the BAA during the '90s and more importantly was a great guy. Died suddenly 3 years ago.
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_2/edward-f-sheehan-jr-forme.shtml
Society was based on wives staying home to run the household and even to raise the family and being allowed no other worthwhile ambition. Society was based on rich men owning other men as a means of labor exchange.
The part where a wife takes the husband's last name was about passing along the male's family's 'heritage' in a most patriarchal manner. It's often ignored these days, with many women not taking their husband's name when they marry. It is even rarer (because it is even more rebellious) for the man to take the wife's last name, instead.
What's in a name, really? Your kids won't be living in a time where by and large their parents' (and grandparents' and great-grandparents') reputation is necessarily their own that determines their lot in life, thankfully society has moved beyond such a backwards and often counterproductive notion. There might be a little issue with friends and family having to get used to it, especially because they're used to the prevailing paradigm of the past. A woman changing her name sort of has to go through the same thing, except everyone she knows would accept it more readily because that's what everyone else does and they're used to the concept working that way. The people who think it's such a big deal to have his wife and kids take his last name is mindlessly tied to an outdated tradition, whether it's for reasons of ego or whatever else. Considering the layers of bureaucracy we've added to society and government, it really is a huge pain to change one's legal name if there's no conceivable need to do so (excepting witness protection program).
If I were to marry a woman whose professional reputation had already been built before we wed and she was known well within her industry based on recognition of her name, then I'd either not mind if she kept her own name or, if we were to have kids, take her last name as mine. Then again, I'd prefer to not have kids so it'd be alright if we kept our birth names or even didn't bother with the marriage charade.
His wife is beautiful.
Prince Philip.
Conservative and butch!
Don't be so quick to judge. I know two men who took their wifes names. Both said they did so because they felt they identified more with their spouses family than their own. Think about it. If your father was a deadbeat crackhead do you really want to pass that name along just because it's been the traditional way of doing things.
I've never heard of this before. Any examples?
Shoeless Ron wrote:
I consider myself to be a fair and sophisticated 21st century man. But thats where I draw the line.
Funny, as a woman I don't really consider myself super feminist or anything, but I still could not change my name.
lucky dog! wrote:
I've never heard of this before. Any examples?
OOOOPS. Sorry, I didn't read carefully before posting!
So after the wedding, when the couple takes off together and everyone is throwing rice, does the woman drive the car too?
lucky dog! wrote:
Funny, as a woman I don't really consider myself super feminist or anything, but I still could not change my name.
That's why you'll be a spinster.