McDougal a 10K Warm up before Stanford?

That's marathon pace for Josh. Just an easy tempo 3 days before Cardinal.

obviously he's pacing his teammate

Be there Sunday night wrote:

That's marathon pace for Josh. Just an easy tempo 3 days before Cardinal.

I think Josh can run around 28 flat for 10k. Running 3 minutes off that isn't too hard a workout. I might not do it 3 days before an important 10k, but I run 60 miles a week and have a PB of 36 minutes.

Still, thats 25 laps around a track which isn't good mentally before such a big race. Don't understand that one.

The Chatch wrote:

Still, thats 25 laps around a track which isn't good mentally before such a big race. Don't understand that one.

McDougal wouldn't do it if it wouldn't make him confident or f*** with his mental state.

5:00 per mile pace is nothing but a tempo run for the guy, and an easy one at that. He was probably just testing out his leg to see if it was firing properly. It'd be another thing if he ran "just under 30:00," but 31:00 is not much slower than his normal training pace on a good day.

nate jenkins did work outs leading up to his great marathon trials performance where he would do a 32 minute 10k in the morning and a 31 minute 10k in the afternoon on the track so i would think that for mcdougal to race a 31 minute 10k isn't too big a deal, the 15:30 split is more than 2 minutes off his 5k pr, that's walking for him, he'll be fine.

Could he be doing some sort of test for the Olympic Trials this summer? He could probably run the 10,000 and 5000. The latter requiring a heat and final, although I don't know when each of those races is on the schedule.

The kid "tapered" with a 115 mile week when he won cross country nationals this past year...he'll be fine.

Remember his words after the last race?

If that was the case it was a bad idea. It sounds like he has been having a hard time with firing a major muscle. Its probably made worse by track running, so he would be better off going in rested with less work making left turns.

Sagarin wrote:

5:00 per mile pace is nothing but a tempo run for the guy, and an easy one at that. He was probably just testing out his leg to see if it was firing properly. It'd be another thing if he ran "just under 30:00," but 31:00 is not much slower than his normal training pace on a good day.

Franklyn Sanchez was known for doing a long run the day before a big meet. Amazingly, he could not break 2:00 in the 800, but could a 13:30x 5k.

McDougal is not going to be running stanford this weekend. I am surprised no one caught this on the revised heat sheets. He is still having problems with his leg and really isn't sure what is wrong with it. He ran the twilight meet so he could get and IC4A qualifying time.

Well I can certainly empathize with him, since I've been experiencing something similar for more than a year and a half now. I hope he can get it cleared up since he is an incredible talent.

runner16 wrote:

McDougal is not going to be running stanford this weekend. I am surprised no one caught this on the revised heat sheets. He is still having problems with his leg and really isn't sure what is wrong with it. He ran the twilight meet so he could get and IC4A qualifying time.

Ugh. That sucks. I hate to see that. Is he still planning to run in the Trials?

What's wrong with his leg?

Granted, McDougal may not be running this weekend, but even if he did run this 10k just for an IC4A time I don't think it would effect him at all. I vaguely remember reading his log from a couple years back and he mentioned doing a 10mi tempo with Stuart Eagon, which they completed in 49mins, picking it up as they went. Seems to me that someone with his 5k PR would do tempos from anywhere btw 4:40-5:00 pace.

The Chatch wrote:

What's wrong with his leg?

He said in an interview after Mt. SAC that his leg has been tightening up on him in tempo runs and races. He was pretty vague about it, but from what he described it sounds like his muscles are shutting down and making it much more difficult to run fast and stay relaxed.

yeh, he is still planning on the trials. He just got a qualifier for IC4A so he could give himself some time to figure out what is wrong with his leg. He then probably try to get an ncaa auto time. He has seen a chiropractor and will probably soon see a specialist.