We're Sure You'll Figure This Out: Katie Holmes Did She Run the Full NYC Course?

I am impressed with her being able to wear heels that night after the marathon.

Remember when Puffy Daddy ran New York? Man, that was awesome.

David and Jane are a wonderful couple. If Jane says the bus is leaving then the bus is leaving. She's a wee thing and smart as a whip.

Of course it's wrong, but I guess if you are famous you can do whatever the heck you want, like run Boston off of a 5:30 marathon and be considered "elite." I think Deena Kastor should have a starring role in Tom Cruise's next film.

Yeah, Jane is a great little woman. Good for Dave.

so did she run. i think her nipples would have been needed the ice more than the legs no?

The picture is now gone...hmmm.

I was in the FDNY section on race morning and stood in line in a port a potty and watched Katie come out and she was hanging around one of the firemen she ran with. I am sure she ran the whole thing and figure she started with the masses since she was not with us in the local elite start.

Stacy wrote:

I was in the FDNY section on race morning and stood in line in a port a potty and watched Katie come out and she was hanging around one of the firemen she ran with. I am sure she ran the whole thing and figure she started with the masses since she was not with us in the local elite start.

Thats should settle it - an anon poster said so.

Wejo, lock this thread, we have our answer.

What follows is mainly based on two reliable sources: official results [1] and photos / videos on which other runners are visible [2]. Connecting the two of them is far from simple, for various reasons:

• Official results are expressed in relative time – e.g. difference between the departure time and the time at which somebody reaches a specific distance. Thus, similar relative times do not mean that people where then physically near each other.

• Official results are only available at some specific locations: each 5K, half-marathon, marathon. Some 25k times are missing.

• The numbers are not always easy to read on the visual documents.

To obtain comparable times, Brightroom finish photos with race times were used [3], except for Kate Holmes {F127} & Co (Paul Vincent {28994}, Wesley Okerson {6074} and a man from organization) [4]. Deducting the official time from the finish race time provides the departure race time. Adding the latter to official split times provides the race split times*.

Comparing these times with the photos, one can say that:

• There are photos from Kate Holmes before departure, and a video [5].

• Besides the men accompanying her, two men were rather close to Kate Holmes for most of the race (less than 2 minutes on 5-30K): Anthony Wilson {44212} and Jelle Jaap de Graas {13302}. Their presence on any photo does not help much to identify the location.

• The commentary of one photo [6] says that Kate Holmes almost quitted at mile 8. The presence of Michael Moomaw {36464} on this photo, even if his number is not very visible here, tends to confirm the location.

• Many were closest to her about 20K – half-marathon (mile 13): Palmira Saracino {36184}, Hyuntaek Lee {32486}, Liza Zaneri {F7935}, Ida Tomaschitz {44060}.

• Looking more closely at two runners with very different running patterns – Mariana Urdaibay {35175} and Diana Roubos {F9951} – the Brightroom photos seem to have been taken just after half-marathon, let’s say somewhere around the limit between Brooklyn and Queens [7].

• There are consistent reports – but no photo - that Tom Cruise kissed Kate Holmes at around mile 18 (1st Avenue, E 96th Street).

• Victor Sailer, a know photograph, says he followed her with a motorcycle between the 135th Street bridgeand 110th Streets on 5th Avenue (miles 21-23) [8].

• There are numerous photos showing the four finishing the race [9].

So far, we have reasonable proofs that Kate Holmes was at miles 0, 8, around 13, 18, 21-23, 26-26.1. The rest is speculation, without further evidence.

[1]

http://www.nycmarathon.org/results/index.php

[2] Mainly

http://i25.tinypic.com/s1oob5.jpg

that put together many Brightroom photos. If different, the origin is mentioned. Most photos of Kate Holmes and Paul Vincent – but not of Wesley Okerson were removed from Brightroom.

[3]

http://www.brightroom.com/view_event.asp?EVENTID=18469

[4]

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/celebp/11052007_holmes/photo07.htm

Wesley Okerson’s behavior is suspicious: he does not seem to run like the other three, and just after he crosses between Kate Holmes and the man from organization, as visible on other photos.

[5]

http://infdaily.buzznet.com/2007/11/katie-gets-ready-for-big-race.html

[6]

http://infdaily.buzznet.com/2007/11/katie-nearly-quit-after-8-miles.html

[7]

http://www.nycmarathon.org/about/coursemap.pdf

[8]

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2324125&page=1

[9] There was also a video that does not seem to be available anymore on Internet.

* Here are the reconstructed race split times used here:

Official 5K 10K 15K 20K 1/2 Mar. 25K 30K 35K 40K

44212 ANTHONY WILSON 05:50:15 00:50:27 01:26:25 02:03:04 02:42:02 02:50:29 03:23:39 04:03:02 04:52:02 05:32:15

F127 KATIE HOLMES 05:49:08 00:52:24 01:26:01 02:03:52 02:40:27 02:50:51 03:22:48 04:02:04 04:42:30 05:32:47

36184 PALMIRA SARACINO 05:39:07 00:46:53 01:26:22 02:02:03 02:41:01 02:49:50 04:03:16 04:42:15 05:23:05

35175 MARIANA URDAIBAY 05:18:54 01:05:57 01:38:09 02:10:50 02:43:51 02:51:09 03:18:00 03:52:26 04:26:50 05:03:39

32486 HYUNTAEK LEE 06:01:42 00:53:00 01:27:27 02:02:46 02:41:11 02:50:08 03:24:19 04:09:41 04:54:46 05:41:20

13302 JELLE JAAP DE GRAAS 06:00:26 00:50:48 01:25:44 02:02:11 02:42:26 02:51:28 03:24:30 04:07:01 04:52:38 05:41:30

F7935 LIZA ZANERI 05:55:26 00:56:01 01:31:43 02:04:46 02:40:28 02:49:58 03:22:12 04:04:07 04:50:53 05:37:06

F9951 DIANA ROUBOS 06:25:38 00:46:03 01:20:39 01:56:18 02:36:27 02:47:37 04:16:52 05:11:33 06:02:19

44060 IDA TOMASCHITZ 05:54:27 00:42:01 01:18:58 02:00:36 02:40:49 02:49:44 03:23:09 04:04:54 04:49:28 05:35:05

36464 MICHAEL MOOMAW 05:15:15 00:55:18 01:27:28 02:00:22 02:34:12 02:41:44 03:09:22 03:46:25 04:22:35 04:59:19

Dang, that was a lot of research to prove nothing.

Wait a second. Someone would cheat to run a 5:30 marathon? Shoot me now.