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Birdlegs
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is at hand. 4/27/2009 8:11PM - in reply to boingo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay Boingo......I admit that I made some pretty condecending remarks. Sorry. Also, based on some of your remarks to me, I did take offense. At this point, I'd shake your hand, or hug, or whatever, just to put all that behind us. My suggestions to that HS girl were genuine, not inentionally misleading.

Having been around this sport since 1969, I've seen a lot of bad miles being run. One thing many milers do is "fall asleep" in the middle of the race. They lose their pace, and they lose their form, and it is all bad after that. This is most common in novice milers, as that girl said she was.

If you recall, I broke the race into 4 parts, 600, 400, 200, 400 (or 300 for 1500).

The first 600 just run with the pack. Anyone can run a 600.

The middle 400 I suggested that she completely focus on form, and on breathing harder than she needed. That middle 400 is crucial. You can not "fall asleep". You need to be ready for the end when the actual racing starts. The harder breathing will keep you more aerobic than everyone else, prolonging the inevitable anaerobic feeling.

The next 200, relax, "rest" if you will. But pay attention to the race, be aware of what you need to do the last lap.

For the last 400, with experience, you will find yourself feeling better than your competition. NOW is when you make yourself hurt.

BTW, I would never intentionally give bad advice, nor intentionally wish a bad race onto anyone. I'm sorry if I came across that way. Also, I think I know who you are, I'll be watching for your name in results. Good luck.
Birdlegs
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is at hand. 4/27/2009 8:13PM - in reply to boingo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Boingo....search the word "breathing" over the last 4 weeks.
Radical Ron
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is at hand. 4/27/2009 8:41PM - in reply to Solo Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Solo Joe wrote:

Ron, what KC track club are you working out with? Smoke?


Yes... great bunch of guys!

Wildman Report:
Bailed on running the 1500m on Friday. Didn't want to drive 3 hours to run in hurricane winds. The wind has been brutal here in the midwest and it always seems to blow when there's a track meet.

Ran 4 mile Trolley run for the first time on Sunday. What an awesome morning. Huge event here in KC. Seems like everybody comes out of hibernation and this is the start of the road race season. Almost 7000 finishers. I managed a 21:50. 5:14, 5:28, 5:28, and 5:39. Finished 40th overall and won my age group.

Can't wait to race the 1500m again. Have another opportunity in a couple of weeks.

Jonesy... how did your race go on Friday?
Ike a trans am eagle
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is in my pants. 4/27/2009 11:39PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Great job Jonesy!
And the rest of the gang, keep on posting those workouts. Great job! Back slaps for all and for all a good back slap.
eddylee
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is in my pants. 4/28/2009 10:31PM - in reply to Ike a trans am eagle Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Great workout today

600,400,200 w/ 2min rest between

127,60,28
Solo Joe
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is at hand. 4/28/2009 11:48PM - in reply to Radical Ron Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Quite the coincidence Ron. I will probably be training with the Smoke once I graduate and move back to KC.
Radical Ron
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is at hand. 4/29/2009 3:23PM - in reply to Solo Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cool Joe... we need more 1500m guys to add to the mix. When are you graduating?
pumpkin in her pants
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/1/2009 10:03PM - in reply to eddylee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Eddy Eddy Eddy Eddy Eddy Eddy Lee!
Has the swine flu canceled this weekend's 1500? I hope not. Eddy, don't let the end of days stop you from reaching your goal!
Blind Eye
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/2/2009 6:15PM - in reply to pumpkin in her pants Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I just watched the dual meet between Bakersfield and Fresno State. Good Job Eddy!! 4:03.73 and slightly windy. That's a big improvement from the PR of 4:16 when you started the thread. Keep it up buddy you'll get it at WAC in Utah!
geological time
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/2/2009 6:33PM - in reply to Blind Eye Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Blind Eye wrote:
That's a big improvement from the PR of 4:16 when you started the thread.


Ummm...Eddy Lee started this thread way back when he was only 14 years old, there's going to be some improvement.
again with this?
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/2/2009 6:37PM - in reply to Blind Eye Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
[quote]Blind Eye wrote:
4:03.73/quote]

Come on Eddy.
Shit or get off the pot!
rubber duck
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is a fantasy 5/2/2009 10:50PM - in reply to again with this? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
WTF? You're getting slower, Eddy.
acid acid acid acid
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is a fantasy 5/2/2009 10:57PM - in reply to rubber duck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
rubber duck wrote:

WTF? You're getting slower, Eddy.


He's messing with your head man, he's messing with your head.
WAguy
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/2/2009 11:06PM - in reply to Blind Eye Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He was 4:16 two years ago. An improvement to 4:03 is, if anything, underperforming as his age considering his training.
Blind Eye
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 1:43AM - in reply to WAguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
actually, his PR is under 4:02. For 1500 meters, dropping 14 seconds is hardly under performing.
post counter
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 2:14AM - in reply to Blind Eye Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Blind Eye wrote:

dropping 14 seconds is hardly under performing.


That's about 90 posts per second dropped. I'm not sure if that qualifies as under performing, but I'm pretty damn certain that qualifies as ANNOYING AS HELL. Hurry up and do it already Eddy!
Pessimist
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 8:55PM - in reply to post counter Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Do it? And kill this golden goose? There's absolutely no incentive for Eddy to do Sub 4. Actually, if I were Eddy I'd find some occasional minor obscure races (out of state somewhere) run under another name, do sub 4, and hide the fact to LR.
sub for for Lee Edwards
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 9:01PM - in reply to Pessimist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Pessimist wrote:

Do it? And kill this golden goose? There's absolutely no incentive for Eddy to do Sub 4. Actually, if I were Eddy I'd find some occasional minor obscure races (out of state somewhere) run under another name, do sub 4, and hide the fact to LR.


http://www.athlinks.com/myresults.aspx?rid=4385657
Sweeney Todd
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 9:25PM - in reply to sub for for Lee Edwards Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Eddy, hope you hit that magic number soon. Sounds positive thus far.

Ran into a bit of a conundrum today. Raced again for the first time in a few months, at a 5K that advertises itself as 3.16 miles. My split from the 3 mile mark to the finish was 37 seconds though so I'm not sure if some other mile markers were off or what. If it's 3.16, I hit a nice PR. Otherwise, just a nice chance to race. I've upped the miles to 2 weeks of 55 and 52, a 37 mile week and this week was 48. Going to start doing some half marathon type training, implementing tempos into the plan. Really going to need solid warmups before those as I'm a big progression runner.

Keep it up. Jonesy, Boingo, Ron, nice running.
Pessimist
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500 is giving letsrun a headache. 5/3/2009 10:09PM - in reply to sub for for Lee Edwards Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
sub for for Lee Edwards wrote:


http://www.athlinks.com/myresults.aspx?rid=4385657


Aha! See, he got the idea. Congrats Eddy, you're a beast blah blah.
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