edited: Tasering at Club Nationals Afterparty

If a male being in the female toilets was a problem it should have been dealt with at first instance by the club. Prima facie there was no law broken by the guy in the toilet.

Police should only have been called if there was suspicion that a crime had been committed or if the male refused to leave the premises when asked by the club (which he was not).

When the police officer grabed the guy's arm he likely committed an assault as it is unclear whether he was arresting the guy and if so on what charge.

If Mike's buddy deliberately bumped the officer, he is guilty of an assault. The officer throwing the guy through the doors committed a charge of assault independent to the initial assault on the guy.

Mike was obviously assaulted by the officer, although if he had a reasonable ground to believe he had been assaulted by Mike's buddy he may be able to claim self-defence. However, it may be seen as a disproportionate response depending on other factors not yet at hand eg level of intoxication (if any) of Mike and his buddy.

Basically everyone except the first guy could have handled the situation better, but the only two who potentially broke any laws were the officer and Mike's buddy.

If a male being in the female toilets was a problem it should have been dealt with at first instance by the club. Prima facie there was no law broken by the guy in the toilet. (QUOTE)

C'mon. You walk into a PUBLIC female bathroom and see what happens.

1. Disorderly conduct.

2. Trespassing.

3. Voyeurism.

Nowdays you could be facing having to register as a sex offender. Get real.

It works both ways with females in a mens bathroom.

you guys all need to chill out.

you all act as if this is some supreme-court destined groundbreaking case. i got news for you: this s*** goes down every day and night on the streets of america (and has been for some time). tasers aren't that big of deal -- hurts like hell, but is a perfectly legitimate way to safely subdue someone.

fact is both sides effed up here, both runners and police, and both probably learned a lesson. runner: don't f*** around when police are asking you to do something. police: don't taze people at club nats party cause whiny runner b****** from letsrun.com will be all over you. case closed. time to move on. simple as that. this thread should die.

and what is with the dude soliciting statements to be used against the police--cut that out. no one cares how many millions in "personal damages" you are seeking from the police department. i for one hope you lose, you filthy lawyer scum.

peace my friends

The only problem Sam caused in the womens bathroom was dropping a growler. The poor ladies who had to smell that. The grossest thing about the situation is he probably didn't wash his hands.

as a teammate of Sam's I can attest to the fact that his growler would have cleared any bathroom

Guys,

This is completely serious and not an attempt to sue the police department. It is about serious matter in someones life, please if you witnessed the event contact

haywoodjb@hotmail.com

.

Thanks.

Listen,

The cop was huge, 6 foot 4+. The guy who got tased was honestly a little tiny wimpy guy. The cop was completely over the top and hopefully will get in deep shit for this. Nothing was done to provoke that type of response by the cop. You want to arrest someone, cuff them. You certainly could have done that no problem.

after I heard about the charges this guy is facing...

- 4th degree felony

- 2 misdemeanors

I feel bad for your friend, but at the same time I think it's a valuable lesson of why you don't do stupid illegal bets no matter how small of a matter you precieve it to be. As for getting tasered I'd still like to hear the other side of the story, considering all we've heard at this point are what the crowd thought, and that's a stupid way to formulate an oppinion.

Has this been on any local news website or newspaper? Just curious probably not since beer does this to people every night. I know I have a number of nights that I regret from beer.

Nothing like this ever happened when I ran club nats....although I did run naked with a number of teammates after one (men and women). No assaults though.

Enough already, so seriously, who took the deuce?

Was she hot?

She better have been really hot to go to jail for.

In addition to the taser, I heard a Christmas tree is now missing from the hotel.

Spokane '08, here we come!

I'm sure Spocompton will welcome you with open arms.

Any truth to the rumor that sex was served up on the breakfast buffet table at Kings Island?

desert rodent wrote:

If a male being in the female toilets was a problem it should have been dealt with at first instance by the club. Prima facie there was no law broken by the guy in the toilet. (QUOTE)

C'mon. You walk into a PUBLIC female bathroom and see what happens.

1. Disorderly conduct.

2. Trespassing.

3. Voyeurism.

Nowdays you could be facing having to register as a sex offender. Get real.

It works both ways with females in a mens bathroom.

Yet this was a private premises, so your three points do not apply.

"As for getting tasered I'd still like to hear the other side of the story, considering all we've heard at this point are what the crowd thought, and that's a stupid way to formulate an oppinion."

really? you want to hear the other side of the story? granted that will obviously give us both sides but what is the cops story gonna be like? hes obviously not going to say he tasered some guy for no reason, hes gonna say something along the lines of he was being threatened (by a guy probably 100 lbs lighter than himself) and had no other option (he didnt even try to cuff him) his statement is going to be just as if not more bias than the statement of the crowd. from all the accounts here from people in the crowd they all seem to pretty much agree with each other. so to me the crowd seems to be formulating a pretty honest opinion of what happened. i was actually there and would really like to see this cop go down he was completely stepping over his boundaries as a "protector of the peace" acting more as an instigator.

F*** tha police

the guy tasered was not in the bathroom. Read BellingSam's description. it was accurate.

iron-lung wrote:

"he was completely stepping over his boundaries as a "protector of the peace" acting more as an instigator.

Did a riot take place after the cop stepped in? Was there any physical problems after the punk got tasered? OF COURSE NOT. So what did the cop instigate? NOTHING. Or do you mean attempted instigation? That is obviously just plain foolish.

Time will tell wrote:

Did a riot take place after the cop stepped in? Was there any physical problems after the punk got tasered? OF COURSE NOT. So what did the cop instigate? NOTHING. Or do you mean attempted instigation? That is obviously just plain foolish.

Are you crazy? The cops instigated the entire ordeal. A simple, "Please leave the womens bathroom" would have ended the entire situation with no physical violence involved. I didn't see the tasering, but what I did see was a cop physically assaulting someone at least 50lbs smaller than him who was not making any attempt to resisting. He had his hands up and was even saying, "I am not resisting" and "I'm leaving" over and over again as the cop threw him around.

I did not hear the cop read the runner any rights or even say, "Your under arrest". He just simply started beating on the guy who looked scared out of his mind and was acting totally passive. The runner was not drunk, unruly, rude, or aggressive. He was simply confused and scared.

I don't think there could be a clearer case of excessive use of force. I don't know what the friend who got tasered did as I didn't see it, but given how the police were behaving I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do anything but question what was going on out loud rather than in his head like everyone else.