Indiana State to host 2008 DI XC Championships

great course....unless its muddy...absolutely wretched if its muddy

Agreed, great course in good weather. Still, it's getting a little boring having NCAAs in the same spot every year. Would be nice to see a change of scenery in 2009.

What a HOLE. It's really too bad that no other school can put together a better meet. By far the worst location for a National NCAA meet in a LONG time. Very Disappointing.

Feelings for Terre Haute aside, I think it is a good choice. Good course for runners and spectators. And, for me, it is close enough that the drive does not seem too long. I will be there this year, and now it looks like for 2008 as well.

The key words are, "no other school can put together a better meet". ISU continues to get the bid because no one does a better job of presenting the sport as we want it presented. It's treated as a major event, which it IS.

The neat thing about having it at LG each year, is that you can almost compare performances from year to year. Granted, conditions are different each time--but it does allow for some good comparisons between individuals and teams.

What course isn't worse when it is muddy?

While I agree there are more glamerous locations to host this meet, you can't argue with the support that is provided from both ISU and the city of Terre Haute.

It would be interesting to get an understanding of the actual decision criteria used to select the site...anyone ever seen a copy of the bid requirements?

The worst spectator course in the history of the united states...going from the start to the first mile point, is one of the most physically demanding tasks ever required of a fan of the sport, with those briars and sink holes in between.....

Wonder what the record is from the start across that tundra to the first mile..I think I made it in 5 or 6 minutes once.

Wow you obviously just don't know what your doing....this is by far the best spectator course I've ever been to. If you know what your doing you can see the entire race without having to sprint everywhere. The fence openings are there for a reason if you follow those paths you don't have to worry about "sink holes".

fea wrote:

The worst spectator course in the history of the united states...going from the start to the first mile point, is one of the most physically demanding tasks ever required of a fan of the sport, with those briars and sink holes in between.....

Wonder what the record is from the start across that tundra to the first mile..I think I made it in 5 or 6 minutes once.

Maybe you should become a baseball fan...after all, you could just sit there, and wait for someone to bring you a beer--candy ass.

So what happens at the first mile that makes it so important to get there?

Pondering:

I will provide you appropriate information. Bids are received and evaluated against each other. One of the premises is that the NCAA Championship in Cross Country, Indoor Track, and Outdoor Track should go to an institution which will commit to all the things it needs to do in order to run a great championship, and have a facility which will allow for great competition. Indiana State has a great course and a fantastic meet management structure. Anyone interested in bring the championship to their institution has to really work to match what ISU does. So many people don't see behind the scene, the hundreds of volunteers, the funding needed from both the institution and the city. It is more than just running the meet, although that plays a large role. So far, no one has achieved a bid equal to ISU's. That is why they keep getting the championship. It would be nice if other institutions took what ISU has done and used that as a benchmark to improve/design new facilities. In theory, it would be great to move the meet around each year. In practicum, very few coaches/institutions seem to have the desire to do all that it takes to run a quality meet.

So for now, ISU is way ahead of the game.

why doesn't furman hold it anymore. i've only heard good things about their course.

Too bad the retards at the Indy Star don't know how to use a spell checker.

u idiot wrote:

There's a difference between "your" and "you're". Learn it.

There are two more letters in "you", versus "u". Learn them.

gatorxc wrote:

why doesn't furman hold it anymore. i've only heard good things about their course.

Because they are in South Carolina and SC is barred from hosting NCAA events because the fly the rebel flag at the State Capitol...

Because their golf course put in paved cart paths and those cart paths are throughout the XC Course. So much so that some teams ran in road racing flats, and not spikes, at the last NCAA meet there...

Furman doesn't even get to host the XC Southeast Regional and they hosted the regional for almost 25 straight years...

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The worst spectator course in the history of the united states...going from the start to the first mile point, is one of the most physically demanding tasks ever required of a fan of the sport, with those briars and sink holes in between.....

Wonder what the record is from the start across that tundra to the first mile..I think I made it in 5 or 6 minutes once."""""

We're building an escalator to the back mile for you. A tram car will bring you back.

GWayton wrote:

Wonder what the record is from the start across that tundra to the first mile..I think I made it in 5 or 6 minutes once.

5 or 6 minutes? That\'s barely in time to see the last place guy(5:00) or woman(6:00). The real fans make it across in 2:30 or less!

YEP!!!!!!! YOUR post means YOU'RE an asshole

u idiot wrote:

There's a difference between "your" and "you're". Learn it.

Pondering... wrote:

So what happens at the first mile that makes it so important to get there?

What happens at the start that makes it so important to watch? At least at the mile mark, you can get the runners splits.