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Shit hands wrote:

[quote]Applyseed Johnny! wrote:

Anyway, feel free suck on you fingers if you wish after having them close to your bungus asshole, but the rest of the world would prefer you wash before you touch anything related to us.

First, as you can see, it is only a portion of the world prefer everyone wash hands after using the bathroom. So, you are absolutely wrong there!!!!

Secondly, why would someone suck their fingers at any time - unless you are a baby, are you? Maybe you see someone suck their fingers when eating, it is a bad habit (While not washing your hand after using the bathroom is not - providing you have the BASIC skills to not get your hand dirty). If you had "suck your finger" in your mind, you have worse habit or you are a baby, take your pick.

Shit hands wrote:

Anyway, feel free suck on you fingers if you wish after having them close to your bungus asshole, but the rest of the world would prefer you wash before you touch anything related to us.

First, as you can see, it is only a portion of the world prefer everyone wash hands after using the bathroom. So, you are absolutely wrong there!!!!

Secondly, why would someone suck their fingers at any time - unless you are a baby, are you? Maybe you see someone suck their fingers when eating, it is a bad habit (While not washing your hand after using the bathroom is not - providing you have the BASIC skills to not get your hand dirty). If you had "suck your finger" in your mind, you have worse habit or you are a baby, take your pick.

You posted the same thing twice. Did your shit covered hands stick to the keyboard?

laor5 wrote:

I can't believe people are actually questioning why you need to wash your hands after taking a shit.

How long does it take to wash them? Why is this such an inconvenience? Why do you think health departments require it in eating establishments?

It takes a minutes every time, but if you pee very frequently, like 25 times a day, that is 25x365x80 = 730,000 min (assume you are healthy and lived until 80), that is a total of 811 days of out of your life (assume you sleep an average of 7 hours a day, eat and drink 2 hours a day). So that is over 2 years of your life. So it is a HUUUUUUGEEEE impact to your daily life.

It is such an inconvenience because we do not feel to waste 2+ years of our life to do something we do not believe is necessary (I would rather spend less than 1 month to train myself not to contaminate my hands while using the bathroom - it might take your longer, but even 3 month is much better than 2+ years, right?)

For your third question, I am glad you asked. It is because the health department want to accommodate freaks like yourself - there are a lot of regulations are there for some sort of freaks. If there were no/less freaks, the world would be wonderful.

huh?? wrote:

You posted the same thing twice. Did your shit covered hands stick to the keyboard?

No, they are not the same, I want it to be clear. Open your shit covered eyes and read it again before posting.

to the guys who don't wash their hands - next time you wipe your ass, sniff your fingers, that's right..no "contant" made but they still smell of SHIT

feww wrote:

to the guys who don't wash their hands - next time you wipe your ass, sniff your fingers, that's right..no "contant" made but they still smell of SHIT

That is actually the smell of TP instead. Try this: get some TP from the bathroom in the stall and then rinse any part of your body that you consider is clean and wipe it with the TP, then, dump it and sniff your fingers, you will smell the "SHIT" in your mind - I am not joking.

ok folks, i am never having sex again.

I operate under the theory that it's really no big deal to expose myself to a shitload of germs, because I have this thing called an immune system, and the more germs its exposed to, the stronger it gets. Those that grow up and live very sanitized lives just end up having weak-ass immune systems that can't handle crap (no pun intended) and they get sick all the time. I am almost never sick, and I very rarely wash my hands. I am also happy to eat anything yummy that falls onto the floor.

encharito wrote:

I am almost never sick, and I very rarely wash my hands. I am also happy to eat anything yummy that falls onto the floor.

I am very rarely sick, and I ALWAYS wash my hands. Different strokes...

With so many Neanderthals here who don't even wash after wiping, all the anti-environment ranting sure is less of a surprise. If you're happy with shit bits on your mitts, why would you care about cleaning up the rest of the planet?

Since it's anonymous - any of you non-washers-after-wipers happen to be female?

encharito, you hit the nail on the head! i also eat anything that falls on the floor.

i started washing my hands whenever i returned to my house from being out somewhere and after each bathroom visit. i have lots of these considering how much water i drink! my hands got extremely dry and uncomfortable and felt horrible most of the time. i stopped doing it. well, surprise suprise, i haven't been ill since i stopped doing it - in fact i notice no difference. here's a novel concept - you don't touch the poo or wee when you go to the bathroom. if i had diahorrea and got it on my hands somehow then yes, of course i'd wash my hands.

webby wrote:

Jim, did *you* Google Dr. Gerba? I did, and his research seems to support the view that you should stay away from bathroom sinks, which have more fecal matter on them than toilet bowls or toilet seats.

Of course I've read some of his work. Gerba does NOT say people should not wash their hands!

Apparently, what some people fail to understand is that, unlike the toilet bowl or urinal, right next to the sink there is this stuff called SOAP.

It's the 21st century and we actually have arguments about this stuff? What's next, a push for blood letting??

you realize the object on you that has the most germs by far is your cell phone. And you probably make out with that thing at least once a day.

well, there's the CDC

http://www.cdc.gov/cleanhands/

Gvt. Food Safety website about hand washing

http://www.foodsafety.gov/~fsg/handwash.html

let's see what the Mayo Clinic has to say....

Despite the proven health benefits of hand washing, many people don't practice this habit as often as they should — even after using the bathroom...

Infectious diseases commonly spread through hand-to-hand contact include the common cold, flu and several gastrointestinal disorders, such as infectious diarrhea. While most people will get over a cold, the flu is much more serious. Some people with the flu, particularly older adults and people with chronic medical problems, can develop pneumonia. The combination of the flu and pneumonia, in fact, is the seventh leading cause of death among Americans.

Inadequate hand hygiene also contributes to food-related illnesses, such as salmonella and E. coli infection. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as many as 76 million Americans contract a food-borne illness each year. Of these, about 5,000 die as a result of their illness. Others experience the annoying symptoms of nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.

Despite the proven health benefits of hand washing, many people don't practice this habit as often as they should — even after using the bathroom. Throughout the day you accumulate germs on your hands from a variety of sources, such as direct contact with people, contaminated surfaces, foods, even animals and animal waste. If you don't wash your hands frequently enough, you can infect yourself with these germs by touching your eyes, nose or mouth. And you can spread these germs to others by touching them or by touching surfaces that they also touch, such as doorknobs.

Infectious diseases commonly spread through hand-to-hand contact include the common cold, flu and several gastrointestinal disorders, such as infectious diarrhea. While most people will get over a cold, the flu is much more serious. Some people with the flu, particularly older adults and people with chronic medical problems, can develop pneumonia. The combination of the flu and pneumonia, in fact, is the seventh leading cause of death among Americans.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hand-washing/HQ00407

mmmmmmmmmm, infectious diarrhea. :)

This is just another one of those threads on Letsrun that makes me realize that runners are not the amazing group of people I hold them up to be. For some reason I always think that runners are smarter or better than the average person, but time and time again the message board proves me wrong.

I mean adults are actually arguing that it is okay to not wash after using the bathroom. Their main argument being that other objects such as doorknobs are even dirtier than your butt. How do you think those things get dirty? They get dirty from clueless people like you who don't take the time to wash. Then the rest of us are screwed because you can't take the time to wash the crap off your hands.

Do you really think that while wiping your butt you don't get germs on your hand. Toilet paper is not some magical material it's absorbent paper that absorbs germs right through to your hand. In case you all don't know germs are these microscopic things that make people sick. Their so small that you can't see them. That means even though you don't see a smear of crap on your hands or feel the pee it does not mean that you don't have germs on your hands.

Don't you hold you johnson while you pee? If you really don't hold it then that means you're not shaking and if your not shaking then your underwear is even more full of bacteria then it normally would be.

If everything out there is so dirty then maybe periodically washing your hands, like after you use the bathroom, would help prevent the huge build up of germs on your hands through out the day regardless of whether you feel using the bathroom makes your hands dirty or not.

It all comes down to one question.

Think of the most gross, nastiest, or ugliest co-worker you have. Imagine that they somehow magically have completely germ free hands right before entering the bathroom stall. They take a huge dump, wipe their butt, they don't wash their hands and then once again magically avoid all other germs while exiting the bathroom. Once out of the bathroom they either, 1. Want to shake your hand 2. Try to hand you a piece of food 3. Touch your keyboard or mouse.

The question is that even though you know they have magically avoided all other germs wouldn't you still cringe at the idea of shaking their hand, eating the piece of food, or using your computer without cleaning it because you know that their hand is actually in fact dirty from using the bathroom.

If you answered no then most likely you are the nasty co-worker everyone else is picturing in this scenario.

JimFiore wrote:Apparently, what some people fail to understand is that, unlike the toilet bowl or urinal, right next to the sink there is this stuff called SOAP.

Okay, you use the urinal, maybe touching your harmless penis with two or three fingers. You then head to the sink to scrub up with SOAP, rinse the soap OFF, and then firmly grasp the knobs on the sink, which teem with the fecal germs of hundreds of people before you, none of whom have used SOAP on those knobs. In fact, you are lucky if these knobs get washed once for every 500 pairs of filthy hands that touch them. And you feel better about your cleanliness now because you have followed the rules, paying no heed to the Neanderthal logic of those who avoid public sinks whenever it is reasonable to do so?

I'm not questioning the germ theory of disease transmission here. I'm asking you to consider how transmission actually occurs. By all means, wash your hands often. But you can still avoid public sinks in many circumstances. It makes more sense to don rubber gloves each time you shake hands than to use a public sink after you urinate.

if the part touching your hand is dry, they have no medium to migrate across from the feces.

nope, you can still shake using the magic of GRAVITY! besides, even if you didn't shake, you wouldn't be adding bacteria to your underwear. it would add some gross yellow stains, but urine is sterile (unless you have chlamydia or something).[/quote]

i agree, which is why i wash my hands frequently throughout the day. hell, i've got a dispenser of Purell right in front of me! i just don't bother after i use the bathroom because there's no reason to.

oh good! i'm sure this won't be oversimplified OR dependent on your arbitrary and mysophobic sensibilities!

i would like to think that people who are incapable of avoiding their own feces when wiping have the sense to wash their hands afterwards. perhaps that faith is ill-founded, but i don't dwell on it because there's nothing i can do about it.

oh, i'd like to add this for the guy asking non-washers to sniff their hands after wiping. well, they smelled like nothing at all. they were dry, too. imagine that. i imagine that, at this point, you're thinking about all the invisible bacteria on there. you know what? there are ALWAYS bacteria on your hands. as for fecal bacteria, there aren't any on mine, because i have mastered the simple motor skill of avoiding my own feces with my wiping hand, and because they can't travel through anything but touch.

perhaps i should note that my office has no-touch flushing on the toilets and all the doors (including the bathroom stalls) can be operated with your knuckles. by these means, i avoid everyone else's leftovers, since i have the sense not to spread my own.

encharito wrote:

I operate under the theory that it's really no big deal to expose myself to a shitload of germs, because I have this thing called an immune system, and the more germs its exposed to, the stronger it gets. Those that grow up and live very sanitized lives just end up having weak-ass immune systems that can't handle crap (no pun intended) and they get sick all the time. I am almost never sick, and I very rarely wash my hands. I am also happy to eat anything yummy that falls onto the floor.

Funny you mention that because I do not wash and I have not had a cold since elementary school.