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The Name Is Jim
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 11:54AM - in reply to Purple Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"The Name Is Jim"
my .02
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:02PM - in reply to The Name Is Jim Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I guess it's just the pitfalls of following the sport for a year or two and not following how the sport works. High school records can be set after graduation until the first day of freshman classes in the fall. If you're not sure how the sport works, maybe you shouldn't be on here insisting that you know it all.
The Sar Chasm!
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:29PM - in reply to lill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
lill wrote:

[quote]Alan Arkin wrote:

Is he really credited with a sub-4 "high school" effort if it's almost July? I think he'll come up short, anyway, but I think it should happen within the context of a high school race. Like NON at the latest.


so are you saying we should disregard webb's 3:53 b/c it was run at the Pre Classic in June??[/quote]

No, the Pre Classic was in May in 2001.
brahsuf
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:43PM - in reply to The Sar Chasm! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Sar Chasm! wrote:

[quote]lill wrote:

[quote]Alan Arkin wrote:

Is he really credited with a sub-4 "high school" effort if it's almost July? I think he'll come up short, anyway, but I think it should happen within the context of a high school race. Like NON at the latest.


so are you saying we should disregard webb's 3:53 b/c it was run at the Pre Classic in June??[/quote]

No, the Pre Classic was in May in 2001.[/quote]

It wasn't a high school race though
RandomHarrier
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:45PM - in reply to brahsuf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey guys,

this was a big issue when Rupp was going after the HS 5k record and as it turns out, the offical rule is that you have until August 31st after you graduate HS until you are no longer a HS athlete
my .02
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:53PM - in reply to RandomHarrier Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
RandomHarrier wrote:

Hey guys,

this was a big issue when Rupp was going after the HS 5k record and as it turns out, the offical rule is that you have until August 31st after you graduate HS until you are no longer a HS athlete


chorus of zit-faced high school sophomores:

duh ... you sure?
Arrrrrrgh
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 12:57PM - in reply to RandomHarrier Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
RandomHarrier wrote:

Hey guys,

this was a big issue when Rupp was going after the HS 5k record and as it turns out, the offical rule is that you have until August 31st after you graduate HS until you are no longer a HS athlete


There is no such thing as an "official rule" period.
hanklaw
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 1:15PM - in reply to Arrrrrrgh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It might not be an official rule but it's what the 'stat keepers' use while trying to track records (pun intended).

My question is, what if you should break any said HS record on Aug 30th and you started your first day of college on Aug 29th or before. You're before the Aug 31 deadline but you are also now an official college freshman - does the record still count as a HS record?

Stat Keepers please respond.

hank
The Sar Chasm!
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 1:30PM - in reply to brahsuf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
brahsuf wrote:

[quote]The Sar Chasm! wrote:

[quote]lill wrote:

[quote]Alan Arkin wrote:

Is he really credited with a sub-4 "high school" effort if it's almost July? I think he'll come up short, anyway, but I think it should happen within the context of a high school race. Like NON at the latest.


so are you saying we should disregard webb's 3:53 b/c it was run at the Pre Classic in June??[/quote]

No, the Pre Classic was in May in 2001.[/quote]

It wasn't a high school race though[/quote]

Neither was Ryuns or Danielsons.

Was Liquori's?
Jr. Achiever
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 1:34PM - in reply to Purple Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So Sorenson's time won't count because there is someone under 40 in the race.
my .02
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 1:36PM - in reply to The Sar Chasm! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Sar Chasm! wrote:



Was Liquori's?


nope
wondering
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 6:02PM - in reply to my .02 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What time does the race start?
atthesite
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 6:13PM - in reply to wondering Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Race starts at 10:30. Thunderstorms here presently, but it looks like they should be clear by race time. Hopefully it will cool things off a little - it's currently low 80s and very sticky.
Futurestar
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 6:18PM - in reply to xjyscgf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
High School Seniors finish at different times around the country and as far as record keeping goes, the high school season does last through Aug. 31st after your senior year.
If a time is run after beginning classes at a University but before 8/31, I believe the rule states that you are no longer considered a prep.
Anyways, Good Luck Matt!!!
Futurestar
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 6:20PM - in reply to Futurestar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Washington State Prep Mile record was set by Gerry Lingren in mid-August after his senior year (4:01.5) in a race in Jamaica and it is considered the state record.
goober patrol
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 7:06PM - in reply to Futurestar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ryun ran 3:58 at his state meet.
whatsever
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 9:10PM - in reply to goober patrol Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
goober patrol wrote:

Ryun ran 3:58 at his state meet.



Now that is the incredible, especially for the time period. I bet the track wasn't so great either. How much did he beat the next guy by?
malmo
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 9:22PM - in reply to whatsever Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
whatsever wrote:

Now that is the incredible, especially for the time period. I bet the track wasn't so great either. How much did he beat the next guy by?


One of the greatest running pictures ever says it all.

Image: http://www.ultimatefitnesstraining.upcsites.com/i/tn_ryun_3583_KansasHSstatemeet.jpg
pogostick
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 9:47PM - in reply to atthesite Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Any word?
word word word
RE: History in the making - Sorensen/Centrowitz 6/27/2007 9:54PM - in reply to pogostick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just some early DC results...

Dan 'the man' 4:01
Little Matt 4:03


Dustin: 1:46.9
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