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| rojo co-founder |
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I know there are other threads on this but I wanted to start this one as the official Josh McD thread. Josh is the man. He won the 5k tonight at ic4as in 14:00.49 He had to go out in 2:09 as the FDU kid was taking it out hard. He absolutely blew away the Kenyan in the last 200. His last 300 was 43.4 but really it was all in a huge sick burst from 150 to 50. He totally let up the last 50. I timed the rest. Just 22:57.96 later, he started the 10k. His splits were 456, 950, 1449.53, (1527 5k) 1934.40, 2426.51 (2540),30:22.90. He won easily after taking the lead with say 1300 to go. Last 3 laps of 68.9, 69.82, 70.98. So the 5ks were 15:27 and 14:55. He is entered in the 1500 tomorrow morning. The first heat goest off at 10:50 am. He's in the 2nd heat. The double in a single day is unprecedented. Villanova's Dick Burekle and Penn State's Greg Fredericks won both the 5k/10k in the same year in the past but back then the races were on separate days. |
| AZ Coach |
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Buerkle and Fredericks won the 3-mile and 6-mile before track in this country went metric. Those doubles were in 1970 and 71. Thanks Rojo for all the spilts. |
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did u add .24 |
| sjc |
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i hope he can recover well enough from this to light it up at nationals. tripling is a bit much but if he just has 4-5 easy days after the meet he will hopefully be ok. both the 5k and 10k could be really exciting this year as rupp/solinsky/mcdougal/vaughn/etc are all running great right now. |
| Reality checker |
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2nd grade math 30:22.90 + 14:00.49 = 44:23.39 for 15k (2:04:52 marathon pace). |
| up on the hill |
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Praise Jesus. |
| Golden West |
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It's a good thing he had that 23 minutes rest. |
| jrun |
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Not a bad workout, actually. |
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Ho-hum. |
| Oh Ryan |
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The real question is... Why? |
| sdsdsss |
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Did this actually happen or was it Jordan McDougal that won one of the races? All I've seen in the results is "McDougal, Jo", both of them are 08 also, so you really can't tell them apart in the results. |
| Irunxc |
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It seems that RoJo was there and saw it with his own eyes so it's safe to say he did both. As far as what he did, that's a great double. However, based on the dismal 10k he had a couple weeks back and the effort he is going though for this meet I see nothing but dissapointment for him at nationals. The knife was razor sharp when he ran 13:20 bit it is dulling now and tonight will cause it to become just a faintly rounded edge. Hope I'm wrong but it is what it is. |
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I have no dog in this fight, but honestly, I agree with those who say it sounds more like a good workout than a great double. I don't know much about the ICAA Championships, but 30:22.90 sounds pretty soft for an easy win at a big collegiate championship meet. |
| Wake up and smell the ... |
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Those times add up to 44:23 for 15,000m of running. That's over a minute behind the 36th best American at 15k. Saying Josh had only 23 minutes rest isn't helping any. |
| Billy Beer |
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You see stuff like this at local road races a lot. The fastest guy out there wins the 5, then there's a 10 a little later and the guy jumps in it to get some extra mileage and ends up saying "What the heck?" after a couple of miles, then moves up to the front and wins that race, too. This is a little different because McD was planning on winning the 10 even if he had to run hard, and wasn't just getting in some extra-mileage-turned-race after his 5, so he didn't know he could take the first part of the race that easy, but it worked out that way in the end.
But a win's a win. Seems funny the 10 was that slow, though. If the 10 is the first day and the 5 the second, minor championship 10s (like conference meets) are sometimes slow-starting enough to be won in over 30:00, since the best runners in the meet are doubling for points. But McD was (I'm assuming) the only doubler in this same-day affair, so it could be the best distance runners in the meet considered this a last chance meet to get the regional time for the 5 and figured they had no chance to run the 29:00 kind of time to make nationals in the 10. So maybe most of the fast guys opted for the 5. It sure seems like somebody in the race would be good enough to want to make a tired McD work hard in the 10 from the gun rather than just hand it to him in a middling time, but apparently nobody tried that. |
| mallard |
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Why is he running the 10,000 the 5,000 and the 1,500 in two days, at this point? Isn't that stupidity? |
| Golden West |
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Why is that stupidity? |
| english boy |
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his a real man! |
| johnny utah |
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sounds like a real team player... probably would criticize him too if he only ran the 5k or 10k and his team lost by 8 points
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| tick tock |
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and one wonders why the rest of the world thinks that the college system burns out our top talents? |
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